Where is this list of 96 countries they claim can out out an international team? Should be amusing reading.

RU does not dwarf RL in the Southern Hemisphere as you well know. S15 would give it's right arm to be as rich and powerful as NRL is in Australia.

In the Southern Hemisphere? Or just Australia? Theres more to the SH than the East Coast of Australia. RU has NZ, SA and Argentina as well, and is also stronger in the islands and no doubt there are considerably stronger teams in Africa than there used to be.

If you think the IRB would give up all that for one semi-decent club competition based in Eastern Australia that, despite being watched by many on TV, is still played in fairly empty stadia, you must be on crack.

www.rlif.com/about-rlif/commonwealth_games

www.rlif.com/about-rlif/commonwealth_games

Nrl salary cap going up
S15 salary cap going down

Yep going great guns is union!

Australia is not the southern hemisphere......there are only 30 pro League teams on the planet playing in 2 leagues....there are 38 pro union teams in europe alone. Wales v France in League attracts 1,600 fans......the Union version 80,000........England can only get an international game v a made up team......and still nobody cares...

Even in Australia, head to head, Melbourne, Canberra and Brisbane, 3 cities that have one team each.....the Union team averages bigger crowds...

I am loathe to go down the Union v League route AGAIN here, but some people need to realise that Rugby League does not enjoy 5% of the exposure globally that Union does. It's not an anti-league stance.....it is simply realism.

Quote ="JB Down Under"Where is this list of 96 countries they claim can out out an international team? Should be amusing reading.'" www.irb.com.........madagascar got a 40k attendance at a recent RWC 2015 Qualifier......the 2008 RLWC semifinal featuring Australia, playing in Australia didn't get half that...keep giggling though....nervous laughter I'd imagine. Quote ="JB Down Under"RU does not dwarf RL in the Southern Hemisphere as you well know. S15 would give it's right arm to be as rich and powerful as NRL is in Australia.'" Let me know how many limbs League would give in New Zealand, England, France, the pacific Islands, South Africa, Scotland, Ireland, Wales, Italy, USA, Russia, Georgia, Namibia...in fact, anywhere other than Australia.

Quote ="JB Down Under"Where is this list of 96 countries they claim can out out an international team? Should be amusing reading.'" www.irb.com.........madagascar got a 40k attendance at a recent RWC 2015 Qualifier......the 2008 RLWC semifinal featuring Australia, playing in Australia didn't get half that...keep giggling though....nervous laughter I'd imagine. Quote ="JB Down Under"RU does not dwarf RL in the Southern Hemisphere as you well know. S15 would give it's right arm to be as rich and powerful as NRL is in Australia.'" Let me know how many limbs League would give in New Zealand, England, France, the pacific Islands, South Africa, Scotland, Ireland, Wales, Italy, USA, Russia, Georgia, Namibia...in fact, anywhere other than Australia.

Whether that is right or not, I would never believe the figures RU come up with!

Didn't they famously claim to have more people watching the WC Final worldwide than actually had access to TV???

There is a more obvious and practical reason RL will never be in th olypmics, you cant fit a meaningful RL tournament in to that short a period of time.

Super 15 combined tv deal across 3 countries - $450mill
Nrl one country $1bill+ expected

Going great guns is union, lol.

How much is the international contract worth?

seriously? you want to go down this route again?

Under 20's viewing figures >>>>>> S15 viewing figures

Oh dear......it would appear that the arrogance of those living on the poisoned rock shows no signs of diminishing.

70k watch the warriors here on SLY TV, 400k watch super Rugby, whilst in SA, nobody watches the NRL, whilst hundreds of thousands watch S15......State of Origin attracted a combined AU/NZ audience of 4.2 million.....the RWC semi final attracted 1 million more......SoO is the pinacle of the RL calendar and it got 20% less viewers than the kick'n'clap. The NRL averages 16,000 fans per game, Australias S15 Teams averaged 19,500......

In Brisbane, the reds averaged more than the broncos, Canberra, the raiders trail the Brumbies by nearly 5k a game and the storm lag behind the rebels.....we can't compare the S15 franchise in western Aussie with an NRL team, because the NRL doesn't yet have a team west of anywhere.....National comp my @rse....



The weekend just gone saw 9,108 fans turn up to watch the 2nd placed storm.......Penrith attracted 7,437.......yet you'd have people believe that everything is AOK in the NRL




Back on Thread: Rugby League has a snowballs chance in Hell of being accepted as an Olympic Sport, based on the FACT that it is played professionally in 2 leagues GLOBALLY and because it doesn't have an internationally recognised presence around the world.....it is important in NSW and Brisbane...elsewhere it plays second fiddle the bigger and more popular code....tell me again about the u20's viewing figures....it makes you look so clever

Native New Zealanders are great..its the Euro ex pats who go live there which gives 'em a bad name.


For a marketor you aint half negative....135,000 reasons to promote union?:





Tell me youre just being stupid and arent really that naive...
Gulf/ UAE Womens 7 team in training:
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Top mens teams:
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The above pictures show the reality of unions 'global' presence at the time of the 2009 vote..You're right about the snoball in hell tho, but its feck all t do with the number of pro leagues.

see......when someone mentions the Olympics on here, someone else mentions Union 7's and the crap hits the fan.
FACT is that Rugby Union 7's, a sport governed by the IRB, is an Olympic Sport because the IOC perceived it had sufficient reach and participation numbers to warrant inclusion and no amount of insecurity or attempts at belittling Union will change that.

It's not about what game is the better sport....it's purely about which game is BIGGER.,

7's was mentioned in the op..it was a bought and paid for shill who went off on a union is bigger than Rugby League rant...again.


Heh, there was a piece in one of the broadsheets about former union player and current president of the IOCs *2005 attempt to get his sport into the olympics...the commitee ed themselves apparently.

(lol, must resist urge to post a size isnt everything joke

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Nah, not where the olympics are concerned...

Soo>>>>>>>>Bloodyslow cup

In what way? Viewing figures in Aus?

What about the WC?

You have perceived southern hemisphere to mean Australia. Is RL that big in Australia that it dwarfs union in an entire hemisphere? Are you really that arrogant?

Is that the WC using the billion people Union calculator?

Whilst we can all laugh at the ridiculousness of that figure, it still remains that despite the NRL having a huge advantage over S15, when it comes to internationals, RU absolutely dominate and more than make up for the loss in domestic. SoO is three games a year. How many games do Aus, NZ, SA and Argentina play a year? How many do they get large crowds for?

RL is massively behind RU due to this "club game's doing well" attitude.

Nonsense, a few int's a year is dwarfed by 26 rounds x 7 games + finals + soo over the course of a year.

Maybe on the eastern seaboard, but not the entire southern hemisphere.

Southern Hemisphere...head to head.

RLWC 2008:
18 Games
293,965 Fans averaging 16,331
Semi finals attendance 42,422 in stadiums with a capacity of 98,000....43%
Final attendance 50,599 96%


RWC 2013
48 Games
1,477,294 fans averaging 30,777
Semi finals attendance 118,717 ...capacity available 121,000 98%
Final attendance 61,000 100%

More people attended the last 5 games of the RWC 2011 (1X QF 2X SF 1X Final & 1 x Bronze) than watched the entire RLWC



The most watched game of Rugby of either code EVER across australasia (Including Kiwis like the NRL do so as to look bigger than the AFL)...was when 5,207,180 Viewers tuned into the RWC semi between the Aussies and AB's.....that's bigger than AFL or NRL grand Final figures and a whole 20% ahead of anything SoO can muster.

We get it JB, NRL fans are insecure little mites when it comes to other football codes and have an almost religious fanatacism with regard to TV viewing figures/attendances.........but only when it suits them.

Facts as they stand at the moment are that the NRL will get a billion dollar deal for it's TV and internet rights.....Fact is that's a massive amount of money......but it doesn't change the fact that 15 teams along the east coast of Australia as well as a team in south Auckland doesn't register anywhere else.

I was reading an old thread on insecurity central (league unlimited) the other day, where you NRL defenders of the faith were trying to laugh off the RWC Final getting 800,000 live viewers in the USA........there's another thread where the 17,241 who watched the USA v Italy was ridiculed....yet another thread that held up the 3,661 attendance for the game between Canada and Georgia as a sign of the decline of Union, but ignored the attendance in Bridgened for the Wales v France test 1,464.

Why is it that fans of RL in general refuse to accept that whilst TGG is far better as a spectacle and rightly question why more people don't get into it, that Rugby Union is a far more popular sport in those countries it is played Internationally.

I'm not knocking it, because it's a lot of fun putting you straight and watching you come out with plans for world domination once you've got your billion, but I would caution you with this.......maybe you should dig the 15 clubs that are on their s financially out of their holes before expanding even further. Penrith were in a $22,000,000 hole last time it was reported...certainly puts Bradfords debt into perspective, doesn't it

TV Viewers
Fans
Money
Interest
Potential

NRL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> S15

Can't wait till the West Coast Pirates enter the NRL and blow the Force out of the water, they are financially struggling now, when the NRL comes to town they are going to really know hardship.

I see you are being true to the Rugby Union statistical reporting methodology and already releasing the attendances for the 2013 RUWC. Did a billion people watch it as well?



Te game in Australia has been hampered by 15 years of underfunding and conflicted management. That is about to change. In the next few weeks the game will have the $'s to set about what it what it started in 1995. The tide is about to change for RL down under.

You're frothing at the mouth now JB.......There is no RWC in 2013.......there is a RLWC though, which will compete head to head for attendances with end of season Union tours by the All Blacks, Australia and South Africa to the British Isles.

As for the pirates...good luck with that. Will they crush the farce like the storm have outrated the rabble?