Probably the same place as Hull's new (post 2002) 8000 fans, Leeds new 8000 fans (post 199icon_cool.gif etc, it's called progression BG, you know, as opposed to an Experiment having the same or less fans then they did 10 years ago.



P.S. Needless to say, the examples of Hull and Leeds were not intended in any way as digs at either great club, and conversely were meant as a huge compliment.

Widnes > Fulcrubronquins Experiment

Cards on the table BG. Hull KR are a club in the upper echelons because they're strong enough and bring a lot to the table. Quins are because you're politically convenient, as you are in the capital and away from our main support base. You sit in an ivory tower but you're lucky to be in the right place and that's all you are.

You constantly attack people for any criticism of Quins whether jusitified or not yet constantly dish it out even to clubs like Hull KR whose professionalism in getting promoted was a wonder to see.

And, don't forget never finishing in a relegation place.



Yup, pretty much the same as yourself and Widnes.



Times have moved on, we (rightly) got slagged for a team full of Aussies when we had a (reasonable) excuse, Rovers have no such excuses.

Which is why people like Welham and Taylor are coming through, and with Hodgson we have signed a very good English winger for example (and well as giving a young English lad a pro contract on the same day).

The whole 'HKA' rubbish does nothing to take away from what we have achieved as a club from our dark days, and when you compare us to Quins we offer far more to SL (in reality, not the fairytale world you and Gutterfax live in) then Fulcrubronquins Experiment.

1. Sadly now a complete irrelevance.

2. Then stop acting like it's any different.

3. That's not the whole story now is it? You've been (rightly) slagged off for a lot of things, finances, crowds, double standards. So have other clubs, but then they don't get a contingent of know it alls coming to their aid every time by referring to criticisers of any ilk as knuckle draggers and acting like they've got an agenda every time they mention your long term viability.

KR could do more about lessening their Australian contingent, but you of all people shouldn't be slagging them off for it after the years you spent going after anyone who did the same to quins.

Brilliant that your club are bringing kids on.....just a shame it's taken 100+ years eh


In your opinion roofs.......in your opinion.
SKY TV money.....how'd your club go without that? We'd fold, and I reckon your club wouldn't be far behind.


I am probably the No1 critic of the way the London ESL club has been nmanaged. I don't live in any fantasy world where the finances and crowds (lack of) don't matter....of course they do, but I will defend the club when attacked by anti-expansionists like you who freely admit to never attending a game in London on principle.

WTF are you talking about "just a shame it's taken 100+ years eh"?!

Rovers have brought through many young English players during our history. ATEOTD because of a very dark 10-15 year period the club lost it's ability to attract local young players (said players often choosing the SL club Hull FC over the NL club Hull KR - not a surprise and you can't blame any of them), but by Neil Hudgell, Paul Lakin and others rebuilding Rovers the club is now bringing talented young English lads to the club, and this is a work in progress.

Well of course Rovers probably rely on the Sky TV money as much as any other club, but Fulcrubronquins had years and years of preferential treatment and bailouts, oh and you're not a club, you're an Experiment.



FCBQE's finances and pathetic crowds don't matter anyway - they will wrongly keep their franchise next week, and will do so till the end of time, despite 30 years of failure and people not giving a $h1t about RL in the capital.

Proof? Nope....didn't think so

Maybe if they sign 6-7 big name players they wont need to loan in 7 players at the same time.

Where are all these kids coming through who are supposed to be playing the game in the capital?

In the academy sides? Just a crazy idea I've had

in the academy side and the under age groups.......one of them recently scored 4 tries for England in an international, another was snapped up by St Helens........we have about another half dozen who are getting game time in the senior squad this year.
.....but some of our northern cousins expected a team full of cockneys withing 10 years




If we are going to comment on "home grown" talent, there are plenty of clubs tha are bigger targets...Hull Kingston Australians to start with

I think you will find there has been 30 years for you to produce players now surely that is enough time to be able to produce enough players so that you don't have to loan 7 in at once or how ever many it was. Also surely it would be more beneficial for the game and for your lads in the academy to give them a game in Super League rather than loaning in 7 players.

If rumours are to be believed on these forums there are approximately 650 million schoolkids who have all been playing RL at school in the London area at some point during the last 5 years or so

Surely they can find 6 or 7 decent ones to play for Quins?

Kyle Amor and Tyrone McCarthy could not agree with you more, They ask why arent quins making short-term overseas signings like Tadulala and Hickey instead of taking these young lads on loan.

Kyle is still on loan with us and McCarthy doesn't play wing or prop, so not the best way to try and make your point.

Yes, McCarthy and Amor are players on loan with you, you know the thing QUins were being criticised for.

Im not sure why where they play is relevant?

McCarthy went back ages ago - keep up.

And?

We had 2 players on Loan conpared to Quins who had 7. Bit of a difference I think you will find.

Wakefield fans coming out to insult Harlequins in numbers, nice.

Yeah, they should have brought in the likes of Tadulala and Hickey on short-term deals instead, that is clearly better

I agree with your point with Semi but Hickey is slightly different because he had agreed to sign before the start of the season but with the administration we had to re-apply for his visa so had everything gone to plan he would have been here at the start of the season.

Even so, there is still a big difference between Wakefield signing Hickey and Tadulala and loaning in Amor to Quins loaning in 7 players at the same time.

You're right, because it is better that quins are bringing in young british players on loan and giving them an opportunity that sticking with overweight never-has-been overseas players.

It would be better had you looked at Ambler on loan than Hickey, better to give lee mitchell a go than Jeremy Smith,

It would be better if more clubs looked to do that.

I would be better to have a team where the majority of the players are British rather than a team where the majority are Aussies and Kiwis but this wont stop Crusaders being saved over Wakefield.