Surely even you can't compare the throwing bottles to singing "hate" (normally very lighthearted) songs surely?

And its up to the clubs to work together to ensure the bans are game wide

no more sheep songs

You will have to ask Damo, I think he has a list of which songs are acceptable!

Hate songs are not nice to hear and throwing bottles are not nice to see. The only difference is people see bottle throwing as more offensive than hate songs because bottle throwing can result in an injury. Hate songs no one’s getting hurt so its ok by some people.

But the truth is as fans we should want neither in the game and there’s no harm in setting up a campaign for the fans ran by the fans.



The clubs are trying they best by putting out loud speaker messages, adding extra security and CCTV. But its obviously not working as well as it should be.

All I’m doing is trying a harmless approach that will encourage healthier behaviour on match days and reward it. Surely you wouldn’t mind a lollypop for been a model fan Sarah?

Again you can't compare the two Damo.

And I am afraid I can't be coz I am a naughty girl and I sometimes swear at games or sing songs with naughty words in

The referee's a banker

Is that because you said so? Both are very similar its just that ones viewed as the more servere act of vulgarity.



Good for you. Bet you wanted me to tell you off but it would be a waste of time as your one of a few people on here who can’t separate Damo the troll from Damo the peace activist.

One more question then my sister wants on the TV.

Its ok for you to break a clubs request of positive behaviour but not others?

You’re a bit hypocritical IMO.

Throw the book at 'em.

Oh the irony...

keep it up damo.

If you can't see the difference between a bit of swearing and throwing things on the field then I think its you with the problem

There's the solution then. Castleford supporters must undergo an anger management course before being handed their ticket.



There are plenty of ways to deal with emotions such as anger and frustration. Aggression should be way down the priority list for any civilised individual.

To be honest, I don't think the game is growing that much. I think it's about time that RL supporters realised that there are people out there, who go every week, who react in this way when things don't go their way. And have been going for years.



You mean apart from Salford banning supporters who were involved in that incident? Dealt with quickly and efficiently.

What did the RFL do though?

I never said anything about anyone being civilised.
I think I've been quite clear about my feelings towards the actions of certain fans.
What I am trying to do is offer something more to the discussion other than let's make an example of Cas.

And as for the solution to the problem, a more consistent and competent refereeing display would have, in my opinion, meant no problems at all.

As long as the club show they are dealing with the incident then is there a need for the RFL to intervene?

Fans knowing how to conduct themselves would have helped, as would Stewards who could deal with the situation more competently than it seems some of them did.

Blaming the ref for the behaviour of some fans is really grasping at straws imo - should we let their team win every week just to stop them getting upset at a loss?

The fans at cas, unfortunately, have become quite used to losing over the past couple of years, yet we haven't seen this type of reaction before. What I am proposing is it is the manner in which they lost which went some way to causing this reaction, specifically the conduct of the referee. That is something, I feel, which should be included in any RFL investigation.

As for your suggestion for letting Cas win every week...

So if Cas knew who threw the bottles and banned em the RFL wouldn't have to bother investigating?

Having a flair in the ground in the first place was against the law, throwing it further broke the law, the club deserved at the very least a fine for that - not just 'fine you've banned him'

Yes I have a problem with people showing lack or respect to the club polices and the other teams.

Ok Lets say I bring a group of people in your garden. We’ll swear and carry on verbelly (not that I’d waste my time doing so) until you’ve had enough and request for us to stop. But why should we stop when you do exactly the same thing every week (or other) at rugby league grounds despite polite request asking you not to?

Will you ring the police if we don’t stop?

As long as people aren't nastily abusive, or causing people physical harm or threat I couldn't give two hoots what they said tbh.

I'm not necessarily on the "make an example of...." bandwagon. What I would suggest is that the RFL act on any report from the referee, question the club stadium / operations manager to see how such an incident could be avoided and, where appropriate, have a standardised finacial penalty structure in place to ensure that all clubs take their ground safety obligations seriously.

I'm not suggesting for a second that Castleford don't, but clearly there was a failing somewhere that meant that they could not control the behaviour of a section of their supporters which, as a result, put other people's safety at risk. How Castleford deal with that to prevent it happening again is more important that how they are dealt with retrospectively.

Gaslight your talking to someone who disrespects the clubs policies anyways by doing this -



Despite the polite announcement not asking her to do so. If she showed such behavour on here she would be banned by now.

Wasting your time IMO.



We’ll be calling your neighbours scum and will be having a go at the police who come round to keep law and order. Just like certain fans do at games IMO although its seems acceptable.

Why do the club deserve a fine? Did club officials sanction the throwing of the flare? No, they didn't.

Salford took action internally. The RFL can see this and say "okay, you've dealt with it, we've no need to step in ourselves and get involved."

If the club hadn't done anything themselves and just ignored it then, fine, I could understand the RFL getting involved. But to deal with the problem themselves shows good initiative, nips any possible problems in the bud and means nobody else needs to get involved.

Was disgusted by the actions of some of my supposed fellow fans last night. I was appalled by some of the decisions myself (their first try, countless missed head-high tackles).

I can never say I've seen such animosity like that towards a match official, and ultimately it's a disgrace.

HOWEVER, the club shouldn't pay a penalty. At the end of the day it wasn't their fault as such - they don't condone the actions of those people. They should just tell us to employ more measures to ensure it doesn't happen again.

Employ more stewards in the stands and also possibly pay the police to come down in the last 10 minutes of matches and 30 mins after full-time.

!'m not condoning BUT . . . " What a load of tripe. I've just finished watching the game, which was more interesting as I'd heard about the trouble so watched it with refereeing especially in mind, and if anything, Cas were favoured by the officials. The fans got themselves worked up into a lather and by the end they were booing as if their life depended on it even when they must have seen on the big screen the refs getting all the decisions right.

There was [inothing[/i exceptional or untoward about the officiating and any Cas fan that thought there was should watch the video in the cold light of day and hang their head in shame.

Even if somehow you got a bee in your bonnet about the ref, there certainly were no major debatable decisions that went Cats way or swung the match, and I have no clue what you are banging on about. NOTHING lies on the shoulders of the referee. Are you barkingly suggesting he should make decisions to please the home crowd?


What? I would be pretty certain that 99% of the people in the ground did not behave in the abominable manner complained of however much they might have booed and complained, and took the defeat on the chin at the end like almost all proper RL fans always do. But it is hardly people "getting annoyed" that anyone is complaining at, is it now?


Utter bolox. Teh ref is there to do his job. Second, you speak as if it were self-evident that he was NOT "consistent" - As a neutral I've carefully watched the game and his performance and there was NO "inconsistency". Just 80 minutes of what all seemed perfectly reasonable decisions to me. And if he and his officials 100% see an inicdent then there is NO case to be made to "go to the VR" just to "placate the crowd". That's just rubbish, I'm afraid.


Yes you are condoning it. You claim not to be but then blame the referee for what is 100% the responsibility of the mindless morons who behaved in that way, and 0% the fault of the ref.

-Well, yes.
-in opinion of biased, one-eyed Cas fans who lost at home.
-Anger? About what ffs? Nothing controversial happened!
- Now THAT is the absolutely most barking thing you have said. [uNothing[/u that any referee would ever do would justify aggression such as throwing missiles, beer etc. Let's be clear about that. People simply have to keep themselves under control and you are trying to somehow lessen or divert their personal responsibility away from where it squarely sits - with them.



Only tos someone who has no clue what a double movement is. Pelo's body was in forward motion and he eneded up well over the line. He bounced in the process, but did nothing to promote the ball forward, and indeed hee couldn't have stopped himself getting way over the line even if you'd offered him a million pounds to stop short of it. I suggest you watch (especially) the side on reply and then read the rules.


But your opinion is barking, as you are trying to say that refs should referee in some weird way acceptablke to you, so as to "prevent trouble" from mindless louts and thugs. You don't seem to be able to see how barking it is to think that a ref should be influenced in his decisions by thoughts of morons who might choose to throw bottles etc. These sort of people are for the police to deal with. They have nothing to do with refereeing.

All that is needed is for the thugs and louts to be identified, banned and prosecuted in appropriate cases. This would have the support of 99% of the decent Cas fans as well. That would just leave you, but you're weird.

whats the big deal? people work hard all week and deserve to let their frustrstions show IMO

power to the people must be retained