Is not arrogance, it's general expection.

When you take into account Wigan and Huddersdfield's league finishes over the years and more importantly last year, you expect Wigan to finish above Huddersfield.

Yeah, and there should be absolutley no 'expection' for clubs to want to improve and compete with the likes of Wigan should there? I mean, for Huddersfield to go to Wigan and not let them go forward at will, well it just needs looking at doesn't it? It's just not right!

I don't disagree with any of that.

My argument is that it's not arrogant to expect Wigan to finish above sides such as Huddersfield when you take into account previous league table and playoff positions.

Is it arrogant or blinkered to think that your fans can't be worse because their are more of them?

I didn't say that.

I said you've more chance of a 'bad experience' as there are more supporters than most other clubs, hence why Leeds, Wigan and Hull KR are getting regulary mentioned.

Or perhaps its nothing to do with the amount its just people don't like them for whatever reason.

I can understand people having a dislike for fans of all 3 tbh, and the arrogance I encounter from a lot of Wigan fans still living in the past does give me a dislike for them in that respect.

So are you saying Wigan are allowed more bad apples because you have more fans? Not sure that's the best way to think to be honest. If that was the case, a Celtic fan could stab someone and Wigan would still be classed as worse, because there is less of them.

Anyway...

On and on about the giants...poor boy.

Worst facilities Wakey
Worst pitch Bulls
Worst fans Wigan* / HKR

* eg Hudds score a try to go 14-8 ahead with 6/7 mins to go. Before Hodgo has attempted the conversion hundreds of wigan fans are pouring out!

Facilities: Galpharm, its like a concrete windy morgue and damned expensive sorry!

Pitch : Any that has moronball played on it (So thats a lot) as they make a complete mess of the pitch and sides.

Fans: Saints/Leeds: No sense of direction only "Forward"

Wigan have got to be some of the worst supporters going.
I mean who leaves with 20 minutes to go?





Craven park for the away fans is shocking, by far the worst.

Fans. For some reason I just don't like Warrington fans!

Facilities: Wakey

Pitch : Celtic's looked bad against Saints.

Fans: Hull FC/Warrington

Why do you think that?

Alex BP - i think you have comnfirmed on this topic why Wigan fans have been named the worst by quite a few people !!

Arrogant, self-centred, blinkered, moaning gits !

Or is it a case of little team syndrome?

I backed my argument with facts.

It's a case of attitude and opinion, not facts or numbers.

Giant Daz's reasoning for not liking Wigan fans were all based on the attitude of Wigan fans, not how many show up and not even how many walk with 20 minutes left. Your own forum is full of fickle fans who want everyone sacked when you lose or everyone knighted when you win.

Half of your fans never saw the glory years of Wigan, yet still choose to base their divine right to say you are a big club by reliving them 15 years after they ended.

This thread is about personal opinion based on their own experiences with facilities, pitches and fans, not your opinion based on the reputation you think your own fans should have.

We are a small team gradually getting better. You were a dominant team when you had the only ft squad. Since SL you are 4th or 5th in the pecking order. Some find it hard to accept this fact.

You have tried to turn a thread where fans just state their opinions into a pi55ing contest. Just because some do not rate Wigan fans...boo hoo. get over yourself.

So it was FC fans who trashed their own cars was it

What???? The huge toliets...meaning never waiting, the huge bar for easy drink purchases and the numerous food outlets...you class that as the worst in the league??? Outrageous!!

.....ahem.....

Burger and chips £8 on saturday shocking

Facilities : Wakey (pitch aside)

Pitch : Odsal

Fans : salford (both of them

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The gap in class between the North and South is shocking isn't it

Facilities - Craven Park - although it was expensive at Quins
Pitch - changes from month to month
Fans - depends what you mean by worst - most aggressive Warrington; big headed Saints; poorly attended Quins. Take your pick