Why?

Because I have already had enough of them. They have spent more money than most SL sides and swagger their arrogance week in and week out.

I feel they need to be careful as they are not cracking any pots and they have been close to losing a good few times this year which should be impossible with the squad they have assembled.

I am hoping that Leigh, Fev, or Toulouse can upset the apple cart, although the odds are significantly stacked against them !

The sooner they get promoted and start getting stuffed good style, the better !

Ah. You mean because they keep beating Leigh?

Make your mind up Snowy.........

1. I will absolutely pish myself if they bottle it for a second year running !

2. I am hoping that Leigh, Fev, or Toulouse can upset the apple cart, although the odds are significantly stacked against them !

3. The sooner they get promoted and start getting stuffed good style, the better !

They were never going to last long , its been one big joke . The sooner they go the better

It will be interesting to see if the rules on P&R are changed next year if TWP do get promoted.

Toronto will be in SL next season without a shadow of a doubt. The RFL have basically made this happen with the trans Atlantic final for which for some teams could be 2 or 3 jetsetting games in a matter of weeks. The final should have been a neutral venue which it always has.

Next year will be very interesting in the Championship with London no doubt coming the other way. Leigh and Toulouse will obviously go for it big time, especially if 2 go up !

I have no love for Toronto which is plain to see, but it is slightly worrying when attendances are no bigger than they were when they were in league 2 !

My word, there are some butt-hurt Leigh fans out there.

Wasn't last years play off final in Toronto? And we all know what happened there when Toronto were a shoe in last year.

Different format last year with it being the middle 8's.

Toronto earned the right for home advantage and like Leigh the year before, made a right mess of it.

There should be no team capable of competing with them this season.

Not really. As a RL fan, i feel we don't have the infrastructure right as an organisation and as a sport.

We are obsessed with expansion, yet still cannot deal with the heartlands and grass roots of the sport.

People in Canada and the RL population expect Toronto to be promoted and rightly so. Like Gateshead and PSG before them, would it be 'all in' or will people soon get fed up ?

Correct. So much bitterness

I'll give you time (you might have to go back quite a bit) to find some post to that effect.What i will say is, I want to see how SL deal with Toronto "IF" they get promoted. I'm not bitter, I just couldn't give two hoots about them.

I understand that but London played them twice in Sept including the MPG so it is doable.

Hopefully they get promoted, and then they become Super League club's 'pain in the butt'. Although being 'full time' players they won't need to book 3 days off work to travel to Canada and back.

There’s a strange attitude in RL whereby people are somehow proud that we have part time players in the game.

We should be embarrassed. There shouldn’t be any part time players in the Championship. It’s only because most clubs are so unviable as a modern sports club that they either can’t or don’t want to pay their players a full time wage yet want to participate in a professional league.

The fact any players at any Championship club have to book time off work should be embarrassing to us. And none of that is Toronto’s fault.

If Championship clubs don’t want professional responsibilities then we should cut them off from the professional structure in the same way as we keep the NCL and League 1 separate.

There are hardly rich owners queueing up to own/buy a RL club are they, and credit for David argyle for wanting to do so. They do the best they can, with most budgeting on crowds averaging 500 -2000 spectators, apart from Bradford, Leigh, & Widnes.
Hardly any of the championship/league 1 clubs have Super League asspirations, only Toronto, Toulouse, Leigh, London (last season) and maybe Widnes & Bradford Bulls do, if they can get finances in order.
A lot of the 'lower league' players have got days jobs, which is better for them as when their careers finish, they're not relying on the sport to keep them in employment. Embarrassing isn't a word I would use, just a 'fact of life' about Rugby League in this country.....NO clubs make a profit worthy of mention, just ask Wigan....(The most prestigious club in our game)

Yes you should, especially with the dross (Leeds) your team, keep serving up every week.


You're nothing but another snob in the world of rugby league.

What has Leeds performances got to do with this discussion? Why is it you always have to take things in a different direction when you don’t agree with the narrative. Him makes some good points so absolutely no need to just resort to petty insults.

But then my signature sums it up perfectly

And why does him have to resort to derogatory comments about part time players and clubs below pooperleague ? Is that not a different direction on this Toronto thread?
Regarding signatures, check Willzay,that definitely sums you up.

Anyway, thanks for your interest JEAN.

Add to that the reduction in central funding for Championship & League 1 clubs so that SL clubs can have a bigger slice.

Championship fans want to see their club make it to SL, but most of the clubs know that it's beyond their capability to make that a reality. If you look at the Championship table over the last few years, you'll see that clubs that have been in the Championship for a long time tend to finish the season in the round about the same position year on year. Only the introduction of additional clubs has any noticeable change to their final positions

Of course, yet Him has the audacity to say we are an embarrassment.

That's so funny. Just how many SL clubs would be running with wholly FT squads without the near £2m from Sky each year?

Why do you think I don’t include some SL clubs in that same embarrassment?

Please quote where I made derogatory comments about any player, part or full time.
I didn’t. But I knew someone would try and distort the comments instead of answering what I actually put.

I might disagree but at least budgiezilla answered with reasonable points.