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| Quote ="Catalancs"www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/24048/rfl-urges-fans-to-campaign
The RFL has today called for Rugby League fans across the country to challenge the BBC’s proposed plans to introduce cuts to local radio services by responding to the BBC’s consultation by December 21.
This will affect all sports, even the monster that is soccer, but I think rugby league will be especially hit hard. Although there are commercial stations that cover the game, some of the coverage rugby league gets on BBC local radio is superb.'"
My club in particularly have done very well out of local radio coverage (must have been at least 3-4 home games that were not only given full commentary, but even Radio Manchester's entire sports programme came live from the LSV) but realistically RL gets a disproportionate amount of coverage on there - certainly one of the few occasions where we actually do well as a sport out of such scenarios, but it was never going to last forever.
I think what we will see more of is 'shared' commentary, with Radio Manchester carrying the Radio Leeds commentary for, say, Leeds vs Wigan and vice-versa which shouldn't affect things too much hopefully.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Personnally, I won't "back" anything the RFL wants me to until Red Hall comes to its senses regarding the franchise system. I agree with spreading the game to new areas but not at the expense of established and historic teams.'" Pathetic. Do you refuse to watch Super League, The Championships, Four Nations and the Challenge Cup?
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"I think what we will see more of is 'shared' commentary, with Radio Manchester carrying the Radio Leeds commentary for, say, Leeds vs Wigan and vice-versa which shouldn't affect things too much hopefully.'" Both sides of the hill would need to radically reduce the in-built bias for that to be a palatable option - although I suppose a similar situation has existed on Radio Leeds whenever Ron Hill commentates on Cas vs another W Yorks club
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| Quote ="MjM"Both sides of the hill would need to radically reduce the in-built bias for that to be a palatable option - although I suppose a similar situation has existed on Radio Leeds whenever Ron Hill commentates on Cas vs another W Yorks club
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Compared to David Doyle-Davidson, Ron Hill is a paragon of neutrality.
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| Quote ="MjM"Both sides of the hill would need to radically reduce the in-built bias for that to be a palatable option - although I suppose a similar situation has existed on Radio Leeds whenever Ron Hill commentates on Cas vs another W Yorks club
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Not necessarily as there are plenty of people on here who are convinced that Jack Dearden on Radio Manchester takes great delight in whenever Wigan lose
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Not necessarily as there are plenty of people on here who are convinced that Jack Dearden on Radio Manchester takes great delight in whenever Wigan lose
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Compared to David Doyle-Davidson, Ron Hill is a paragon of neutrality.'"
Is DDD still there? Whatever, the Radio Humberside phone in is a thing of rare beauty for the departing, victorious, away fan
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| No skewed logic at all - lets just say i've been disenfranchised by the RFL and anything they want its fanbase to do i'm against until they start listening to said fanbase.
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Not necessarily as there are plenty of people on here who are convinced that Jack Dearden on Radio Manchester takes great delight in whenever Wigan lose
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And Salford, supposedly in some warped grudge following the "Manchester" Super League debacle.
Quote ="Tigerade"No skewed logic at all - lets just say i've been disenfranchised by the RFL and anything they want its fanbase to do i'm against until they start listening to said fanbase.'"
I can only conclude you're trolling because even a Yorkshireman could not be that thick.
Will be filling out the form giving my views shortly. BBC Radio coverage is one of the best quality outlets for our game at present.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"No skewed logic at all - lets just say i've been disenfranchised by the RFL and anything they want its fanbase to do i'm against until they start listening to said fanbase.'"
No what you mean is until they start listening to you and do only what you think should be done. You do not speak for the RL fanbase.
So why won't you try and help the sport you claim to be a fan of?
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"My club in particularly have done very well out of local radio coverage (must have been at least 3-4 home games that were not only given full commentary, but even Radio Manchester's entire sports programme came live from the LSV) but realistically =#FF0000RL gets a disproportionate amount of coverage on there - certainly one of the few occasions where we actually do well as a sport out of such scenarios, but it was never going to last forever.
I think what we will see more of is 'shared' commentary, with Radio Manchester carrying the Radio Leeds commentary for, say, Leeds vs Wigan and vice-versa which shouldn't affect things too much hopefully.'" Do we really? I'd argue that rugby league is the second biggest sport in the region and a major part of the identity in this part of Lancashire. On BBC Radio Manchester we get one evening a week exclusively for rugby league, a couple of hours on Friday often shared with the one and only professional rugby union side in the region and the Sunday sports programme. During the soccer season the sport's coverage is chopped and changed to accomodate the 11-man code with little to no explanation or warning.
The bigger picture is that local radio provides an essential link and helps overcome isolation and loneliness. For many people, particularly the elderly and those in more isolated areas, their local BBC radio station is truly a lifeline and sometimes their only link to the rest of the community.
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| I don't think i'm on my own when all I want is the RFL to promote its strongest 12 or 14 clubs in its elite division.
i also won't support any of the RFL's showcase events like international games until it wakes up and starts to listen to its core fanbase.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Personnally, I won't "back" anything the RFL wants me to until Red Hall comes to its senses regarding the franchise system. I agree with spreading the game to new areas but not at the expense of established and historic teams.'"
When I read the OP I knew there was going to be at least one person that is either too selfish, thick, ignorant or lazy to research the history of the game properly and why the RFL have made the decisions they have, and use the thread as an opportunity to spout their self-righteous, ill-informed, non-sensical rubbish.
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| Cheers.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Do we really? I'd argue that rugby league is the second biggest sport in the region and a major part of the identity in this part of Lancashire. On BBC Radio Manchester we get one evening a week exclusively for rugby league, a couple of hours on Friday often shared with the one and only professional rugby union side in the region and the Sunday sports programme. During the soccer season the sport's coverage is chopped and changed to accomodate the 11-man code with little to no explanation or warning.
The bigger picture is that local radio provides an essential link and helps overcome isolation and loneliness. For many people, particularly the elderly and those in more isolated areas, their local BBC radio station is truly a lifeline and sometimes their only link to the rest of the community.'"
Second biggest, yes, but by a long, long distance. I know BBC radio shouldn't be about the popularity of sports etc but you could get a total of the attendances of all the Radio Manc RL clubs and it wouldn't match even just a couple of United and City games, not to mention Bolton, Wigan, Rochdale, Oldham, Stockport etc.
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Second biggest, yes, but by a long, long distance. I know BBC radio shouldn't be about the popularity of sports etc but you could get a total of the attendances of all the Radio Manc RL clubs and it wouldn't match even just a couple of United and City games, not to mention Bolton, Wigan, Rochdale, Oldham, Stockport etc.'" We're light years behind in terms of support in numbers but that's the beauty of local radio and just one of the many reasons why it can't be allowed to wither and die.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"I don't think i'm on my own when all I want is the RFL to promote its strongest 12 or 14 clubs in its elite division.
i also won't support any of the RFL's showcase events like international games until it wakes up and starts to listen to its core fanbase.'"
Which clubs are stronger than any of the 14 in SL for 2012?
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| Quote ="Catalancs"www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/24048/rfl-urges-fans-to-campaign
The RFL has today called for Rugby League fans across the country to challenge the BBC’s proposed plans to introduce cuts to local radio services by responding to the BBC’s consultation by December 21.
This will affect all sports, even the monster that is soccer, but I think rugby league will be especially hit hard. Although there are commercial stations that cover the game, some of the coverage rugby league gets on BBC local radio is superb.'"
All true fans of Rugby League will respond to the RFLs request. All those masquerading as Rugby League fans, but are not won't.
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| Leigh to run its own radio station,its been tried out too via leighlife.com
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"Leigh to run its own radio station,its been tried out too via leighlife.com'"
It's very much in it's infancy, hang on
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| One answer could be internet radio. One site, rfl affiliated and well advertised, every club broadcasting their games.
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"Its being started though, so ,maybe other clubs should look into it also.'"
That is our hope that clubs will take notice of it and start schemes themselves and hopefully the RFL will take notice of well and assist other clubs in getting it up and running. A long way to go just yet though!
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| Come on lets support the RFL on this one. Rugby League needs all the positive media exposure it can get get so do your bit and keep Rugby League on our local radio stations. Also write to your local MP and ask for their support.
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| These BBC proposals have been around for months. I'm surprised it has taken the RFL so long to become active on it.
BBC Manc lost the ability to broadcast soccer and rugby when it ditched its medium waveband. BBC Merseyside still has mw, can and does go with commentaries on both sports. Whether the mw will continue we shall see.
Do please use the links provided to gain info and advise them of your thoughts. Also write to your local MP. If he/she are in a RL town then they will probably be on the case already.
I wrote to my MP months ago and she has sent me three updates to the present date. She contacted the Sec of State, Hunt, and his no2 Ed Vaizie (sp). Although I'm not living in a RL area she has been excellent.
Our friend Ray French address the All Party RL Parliamentary Committee and informed them in no uncertain terms what the BBC proposals would mean to local radio sport and Rugby League. Those MP's apparently had the head of BBC Radio Sport in front of them last week and absolutely toasted him. The Beeb are looking for around £5m of cuts from local radio out of a total budget of something like £2bn. They can find that amout elsewhere easily.
Please lobby the Beeb and write to your MP, it will make a difference.
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