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| Quote ="King Street Cat"Not sure whether this has already been posted. Can't be bothered looking through 40+ pages.
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Shocking, clearly took some serious impact..
Hope he recovers quickly
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Bet there wouldn't have been people imploring for criminal charges, or even a thread on the Wakey board with one person demanding Chase be deported, either.'"
Agreed, that would be stupid trying to deport an Englishman to England. Although it may be possible to deport a Knob to Knobland - what's your legal take on that?
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| I would just like to say i have spoken with tangi and he has told me that rangi has not been in touch to apologise although tangi as said he doesnt really want to talk to him at the minute. Cant blame him really but it just shows what type of person chase is to not have even tried to apologise.
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| Quote ="Mr Neutral"I would just like to say i have spoken with tangi and he has told me that rangi has not been in touch to apologise although tangi as said he doesnt really want to talk to him at the minute. Cant blame him really but it just shows what type of person chase is to not have even tried to apologise.'"
Heard people saying he hasn't spoken to him and also heard that Chase has phoned him up and spoke "at length" with him...so I'll wait for something more official.
Although if it does turn out that they have spoken, will that also "show what type of person" Chase is?
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Heard people saying he hasn't spoken to him and also heard that Chase has phoned him up and spoke "at length" with him...so I'll wait for something more official.
Although if it does turn out that they have spoken, will that also "show what type of person" Chase is?'"
As i said this is straight from tangi and he also posted it on his facebook when asked by a fan if chase had been in touch. If thats not good enough for you then i apologise
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| Quote ="Mr Neutral" he also posted it on his facebook'"
That's proof enough.
I'd like to think he's just giving him some time, but it wouldn't be a surprise if Chase just kept a low profile and stayed away...which would be the wrong thing to do.
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| Quote ="Mr Neutral"I would just like to say i have spoken with tangi and he has told me that rangi has not been in touch to apologise although tangi as said he doesnt really want to talk to him at the minute. Cant blame him really but it just shows what type of person chase is to not have even tried to apologise.'"
Heard different myself.
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| It doesn't matter what you have 'heard'.
From the horse's mouth, "Chase hasn't been in contact".
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| Just looking at the disciplinary guidelines I think the ruling was too light. (Sorry if already covered in the previous 46 pages)
Grade C-E Strikes with elbow – tackling – reckless
Grade D-F Strikes with elbow – tackling – intentional
Grade - Normal suspension range
C - 2-3
D - 3-5
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So they ruled for a 3 match suspension that either it was the lowest grade of reckless tackle but the highest suspension in that range or that it was intentional but the lowest possible suspension.
Either way, I'd have given more.
The rules do allow for a clean record to be taken into considerationbut equally they say an injury to a player because of the incident should also be taken into consideration.
Also, remorse for the incident is taken into consideration. If I were Chase I would have at least apologised in public if a face to face is too awkward but equally if I was Tangi, I wouldn't want to talk to him and I'd be probably kicking up a stink about it too.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Just looking at the disciplinary guidelines I think the ruling was too light. (Sorry if already covered in the previous 46 pages)
Grade C-E Strikes with elbow – tackling – reckless
Grade D-F Strikes with elbow – tackling – intentional
Grade - Normal suspension range
C - 2-3
D - 3-5
E - 4-8
F - 8+
So they ruled for a 3 match suspension that either it was the lowest grade of reckless tackle but the highest suspension in that range or that it was intentional but the lowest possible suspension.
Either way, I'd have given more.
The rules do allow for a clean record to be taken into considerationbut equally they say an injury to a player because of the incident should also be taken into consideration.
Also, remorse for the incident is taken into consideration. If I were Chase I would have at least apologised in public if a face to face is too awkward but equally if I was Tangi, I wouldn't want to talk to him and I'd be probably kicking up a stink about it too.'"
The report says reckless and the guilty plea was taken into account.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Just looking at the disciplinary guidelines I think the ruling was too light. (Sorry if already covered in the previous 46 pages)
Grade C-E Strikes with elbow – tackling – reckless
Grade D-F Strikes with elbow – tackling – intentional'"
The charge was strikes with arm, hand or shoulder - reckless IIRC which is a Grade A-C offence. So he got the higher end of the punishment available to the RFL on that charge.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Just looking at the disciplinary guidelines I think the ruling was too light. (Sorry if already covered in the previous 46 pages)
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You're in luck - not a single person has mentioned it!
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"The charge was strikes with arm, hand or shoulder - reckless IIRC which is a Grade A-C offence. So he got the higher end of the punishment available to the RFL on that charge.'"
Well I guess I'll have to look at that again but it sure looked like an elbow to me.
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Quote ="PopTart"Well I guess I'll have to look at that again but it sure looked like an elbow to me.'"
First contact was with the upper arm/shoulder area, the RFL saw that and will have had far better pictures than the folk on here, as well as being able to slow it down with better quality.
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3553 there's this too the might clear it up for you a bit.
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Quote ="PopTart"Well I guess I'll have to look at that again but it sure looked like an elbow to me.'"
First contact was with the upper arm/shoulder area, the RFL saw that and will have had far better pictures than the folk on here, as well as being able to slow it down with better quality.
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3553 there's this too the might clear it up for you a bit.
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Quote ="Gronk!"First contact was with the upper arm/shoulder area, the RFL saw that and will have had far better pictures than the folk on here, as well as being able to slow it down with better quality.
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3553 there's this too the might clear it up for you a bit.'"
Yes as agreed this seems to confirm that the RFL disciplinary panel are spineless, whatever Perry Mason here thinks.
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www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3553 there's this too the might clear it up for you a bit.'"
Yes as agreed this seems to confirm that the RFL disciplinary panel are spineless, whatever Perry Mason here thinks.
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www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3553 there's this too the might clear it up for you a bit.'"
Don't be a tit.
The RFL won't have had better quality or even better angles, they use clubs cameras as previously mentioned. Now, I very much doubt that Fev film their DVDs in better quality than the SKY cameras do, the norm is a camera high in the stand from the commentary area.
In 46 pages, what has been confirmed is that you are an absolute plank of the highest order.
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www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3553 there's this too the might clear it up for you a bit.'"
Don't be a tit.
The RFL won't have had better quality or even better angles, they use clubs cameras as previously mentioned. Now, I very much doubt that Fev film their DVDs in better quality than the SKY cameras do, the norm is a camera high in the stand from the commentary area.
In 46 pages, what has been confirmed is that you are an absolute plank of the highest order.
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| He can be a tit if he wants, as he's proved so ably in the previous pages.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Yes as agreed this seems to confirm that the RFL disciplinary panel are spineless, whatever Perry Mason here thinks.'"
Indeed, just because they say that is what they saw, doesn't make it so. And I'd say they would use the Sky cameras so no better view than us.
........................and Perry Mason were great at Wakefield!
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| Quote ="Rock God X"You're in luck - not a single person has mentioned it!
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Oh, sorry
Should have checked. I'll get my coat!
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| Quote ="bren2k"Bit of a contrary judgement really - they talked about the aggravating factors, stated that it was within their gift to go beyond the guidelines, made reference to his recent record, then went for the pathetic cop-out of 3 games and £300.'"
It's quite unbelievable isn't it? And if those aggravating factors weren't enough Chase and Milward seem incredulously begrudging and indecorous regarding the "reckless" tag. Remorse? Ha!
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| Gronk never fails to amaze me with his stupidity for a supposedly educated chap you don't half spout some full on crap! What a nobhead!
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| Quote ="inside man"Gronk never fails to amaze me with his stupidity for a supposedly educated chap you don't half spout some full on crap! What a nobhead!'"
That might be a bit strong. I can only assume that in his rush to threaten legal action however, the high-flying law firm of Gronk & Partners missed the memo about 'honest comment.'
I did some work with the CPS a couple of years ago around restorative justice; in that spirit, I'd suggest that Rangi be made to play for Fev until Tangi is fit to return, although given his performance against them, I'm not sure he'd be guaranteed a regular first team place.
Try going to a popular video sharing website and searching 'Cas Fev Parody' - in the posh part of Featherstone where they have t'internet and everything, somone clearly has too much time on their hands.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Try going to a popular video sharing website and searching 'Cas Fev Parody' - in the posh part of Featherstone where they have t'internet and everything, somone clearly has too much time on their hands.'"
It's a shame the thing is full of terrible spelling, the over use of a certain profanity and the grammar of a 6 year old....hopefully you don't teach 'em like that Bren!
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| Quote ="Gronk!"It's a shame the thing is full of terrible spelling, the over use of a certain profanity and the grammar of a 6 year old....hopefully you don't teach 'em like that Bren!'"
I'm not a teacher - I work for a living.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Well I guess I'll have to look at that again but it sure looked like an elbow to me.'"
His elbow is clearly pointed out towards the camera on the footage. No way is at elbow.
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