The nicest suburbs in Sydney are not the oceanside suburbs you mention, such as the massively overbuilt and overcrowded Bondi, but rather the harbourside suburbs of the east and lower north. There are few places in the world as lovely as the water view parts of Vaucluse, Darling Point and Elizabeth Bay in the eastern suburbs, and Mosman, Cremorne, Neutral Bay and Milson's Point in the lower northern suburbs. However rugby league players seem to never aspire to live there, prefering instead the ocean side suburbs, where they can surf, like Coogee, where I believe the Burgess brothers live, as did Adrian Morley before them.

The nicest Suburbs in my opinion are Balmoral Beach at middle Harbour or any of the Beaches north of Mona Vale, with Whale, Avalon and Palm Beach right up there.

How is Ingleburn these days- Worked there for a while

Used to get to the West Maggies games at Cambletown!!

Lived at Ashfield for just over a year and thought I was nice.

NZ Warriors is the [url=http://www.zerotackle.com/nrl/new-zealand-warriors-set-to-land-tomkins-9137/latest rumour[/url

Still crap.

Jamie Soward has just signed a deal with Penrith beginning 2014. www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/n ... 6622833375 So St George-Illawarra will be desperate for a full back [iand[/i a five eighth. That means that they are likely to redouble their efforts to get Sam Tomkins.

Jamie Soward has just signed a deal with Penrith beginning 2014. www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/n ... 6622833375 So St George-Illawarra will be desperate for a full back [iand[/i a five eighth. That means that they are likely to redouble their efforts to get Sam Tomkins.

Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Jamie Soward has just signed a deal with Penrith beginning 2014. www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/n ... 6622833375 So St George-Illawarra will be desperate for a full back [iand[/i a five eighth. That means that they are likely to redouble their efforts to get Sam Tomkins.'" Well they're just about to buy Rangi Chase so that covers the five eighth.

Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Jamie Soward has just signed a deal with Penrith beginning 2014. www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/n ... 6622833375 So St George-Illawarra will be desperate for a full back [iand[/i a five eighth. That means that they are likely to redouble their efforts to get Sam Tomkins.'" Well they're just about to buy Rangi Chase so that covers the five eighth.

What evidence is there for that assertion?

Tomkins link via Cadoo on the Wigan forum.

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Well Millward was certainly implying quite strongly that he's on his way on the SL Show this week.

I don't believe it.

Tomkins is much more likely to want to live in the sunshine of Australia, rather than in the damp and dreary Wiganesque weather of New Zealand. .

As did the player himself.

Signed for Tweed Heads Seagulls as of next season.........

Chase is playing his last game over here this weekend by all accounts!!

If that is true then Castleford will be in even worse trouble than they are now.

It's actually getting worse.

Bunch of Poms talking about Sydney.

Sydney born and raised. Born in the greater west, lived most of my life in the north-west, currently live in the inner-west, work in the east. There's great suburbs all over Sydney, and also suburbs you would have to pay me to live in. I am partial to the north-west, Castle Hill in particular. It's away from the city, larger living spaces, low crime rate, extremely well serviced by shops and away from Old Northern Rd and Showground Rd it's QUIET. Genuinely think it's one of the best areas to raise a family in.

It's pretty much the opposite to where I am now in Stanmore. Directly under the flight path, nearly as bad as Marrickville. Also right on the railway. Used to complain that we weren't serviced by trains in the north-west, but they're just crime hubs I can do without. Can't bloody park off the roads around here and you often have to pay for it

While the east has a good reputation, I'd never live somewhere like Bondi. I'd probably be the only Australian living there if I did. Even the nice suburbs are really poorly serviced by shops. Even the Bunnings in Rosé Bay is seriously pathetic.

Northern Beaches? Talk about geographic isolation. If a common mode of transport to and from your suburb is by bloody ferry, I'm not going near it.

Yes, couldn't agree more. Drinking a beer as my ferry leaves Circular Quay, with the Harbour Bridge on my left, Opera House on my right, and skyscrapers in the sunset behind me, I often think about how awful my commute is compared to the Central Line sardine tin I used to catch home in the big smoke

Competing Salary Caps 2014
Top 14 (FRU) 8.5mill pounds
NRL 6.4mill pounds
Aviva Premiership (ERU) 4.5mill pounds
S14 2.6mill pounds
SL 1.7 mill pounds

going to be very hard to hold on to any talent in years ahead

If you don't like the fery why not get a bus.
We did and it didn't seem to take long via Neutral Bay and over the H Bridge.

Manly fans won't cross water!

There are no ferries from the northern beaches other than Manly. Any other northern beach requires at least a bus or a car to get to a ferry. Most people would take a bus or a car all the way to the city or to a train station.

Ferries are a common and delightful form of transport to the city (Circular Quay) from the lower northern suburbs such as Milson's Point, Cremorne, Mosman and Neutral Bay.

Indeed. And there are still clowns in the game who think we need to *reduce* the cap still more until the dross catch up. Death spiral.