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| Quote ="Cokey"It was tongue in cheek, get a grip man. It was nice for you to rise to it though.
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| Quote ="vastman"Leeds fans don't get irony a bit like Americans. I'm afraid they are a bit up themselves.'"
At least Leeds fans are up themselves after 8 GF wins and not just one 5th placed finish after they choked away a playoff spot
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| Quote ="vastman"Leeds fans don't get irony a bit like Americans. I'm afraid they are a bit up themselves.'"
We have noticed
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| Quote ="PrinterThe"At least Leeds fans are up themselves after 8 GF wins and not just one 5th placed finish after they choked away a playoff spot
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Chill out a bit
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| Quote ="Zulu01"Chill out a bit'"
Perfectly chilled, just giving a bit of banter back
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| Widnes have signed Prop Forward Stanton Albert from PNG Hunters on a 2 year contract. Stanton is the brother of Widnes new signing Wellington Albert.
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| Quote ="Brenio"Widnes have signed Prop Forward Stanton Albert from PNG Hunters on a 2 year contract. Stanton is the brother of Widnes new signing Wellington Albert.'"
There were talks of this happening when we signed Wellington. This no doubt will make it easier for Wellington to settle in as he was due to fly over to Widnes and live with Kato Ottio before his tragic passing.
Can only go off limited highlights I've seen both but Albert brothers look to run the ball in with some real speed and conviction. Something widnes have lacked in the prop area for some time.
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| Looking forward to watching the Albert brothers in Super League, I think they’ll both prove to be great signings.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Looking forward to watching the Albert brothers in Super League, I think they’ll both prove to be great signings.'"
He could be the worst player in the world but because he’s from PNG everyone makes out he’s great when in reality everyone’s watched him 2 or 3 times.
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| Quote ="AS108"He could be the worst player in the world but because he’s from PNG everyone makes out he’s great when in reality everyone’s watched him 2 or 3 times.'"
Very possible. Whichever it may be will be interesting to see.
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| Quote ="AS108"He could be the worst player in the world but because he’s from PNG everyone makes out he’s great when in reality everyone’s watched him 2 or 3 times.'"
Who has made him out to be great? Please reply with quotes
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| Quote ="AS108"He could be the worst player in the world but because he’s from PNG everyone makes out he’s great when in reality everyone’s watched him 2 or 3 times.'"
Strange comment when nobody has made out he’s great, although he has been deemed good enough to play for his country several times.
Penrith Panthers also deemed him good enough for them to sign him, although he hasn’t yet played in the NRL, playing prop and only been 22, that’s not too surprising.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Strange comment when nobody has made out he’s great, although he has been deemed good enough to play for his country several times.
Penrith Panthers also deemed him good enough for them to sign him, although he hasn’t yet played in the NRL, playing prop and only been 22, that’s not too surprising.'"
No it's not strange at all it's frankly obvious. People on the VT especially are very much like the people who cheered the kings new cloth in the fairytale.
PNG had roughly the same success in the Tournament as Ireland who they narrowly beat. I don't see the same ridiculous over hype for those players.
These players may do ok who knows but the hype surrounding them is as I say way it of proportion to ability. The only one with any real pedigree is Mead and even there it's totally OTT. The others are very much unknown quantities.
As I keep saying the players we get from the NRL are becoming less and less reliable. The odd gem usually an uknown but the rest are either past it or never really had it.
As for signing for the panthers so what they sign a lot of players. Jarrod Hickey arrived at BV having played for the Bulldogs for a number of seasons and was considered a star at one point. Worst player I have ever seen at BV and it's a fair old list!
So why you are so confident about a player who never got a game I'm not sure.
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| Quote ="Lebron James"Who has made him out to be great? Please reply with quotes
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‘Looking forward to watching the Albert brothers in Super League, I think they’ll both prove to be great signings.’ It’s been the same for every PNG player who’s signed for a club and it’s quite irritating, if the Alberts, for example, where that good then they would have signed for a better side not Widnes.
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| Quote ="vastman"No it's not strange at all it's frankly obvious. People on the VT especially are very much like the people who cheered the kings new cloth in the fairytale.
PNG had roughly the same success in the Tournament as Ireland who they narrowly beat. I don't see the same ridiculous over hype for those players.
These players may do ok who knows but the hype surrounding them is as I say way it of proportion to ability. The only one with any real pedigree is Mead and even there it's totally OTT. The others are very much unknown quantities.
As I keep saying the players we get from the NRL are becoming less and less reliable. The odd gem usually an uknown but the rest are either past it or never really had it.
As for signing for the panthers so what they sign a lot of players. Jarrod Hickey arrived at BV having played for the Bulldogs for a number of seasons and was considered a star at one point. Worst player I have ever seen at BV and it's a fair old list!
So why you are so confident about a player who never got a game I'm not sure.'"
An Irish team made up of 2 Irish born players with nationalities stretching from England to down under. Remember that PNG team is 95% + filled with players born in PNG. Great achievement for them and having RL as their national sport, they'll only get better.
Widnes have been dealing with puddings in the prop department for years. Burke, Dudson, Buchanan. The list goes on. These pair are a much welcomed addition to our team, they'll go well.
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| Quote ="Pats plastic pitch"An Irish team made up of 2 Irish born players with nationalities stretching from England to down under. Remember that PNG team is 95% + filled with players born in PNG. Great achievement for them and having RL as their national sport, they'll only get better.
Widnes have been dealing with puddings in the prop department for years. Burke, Dudson, Buchanan. The list goes on. These pair are a much welcomed addition to our team, they'll go well.'"
The point is you don’t know if they’ll ‘go well’ seen as you’ve barely watched them. For all you know, they could be just as bad as the players you’ve listed but you and many others have decided they are great signings purely because they are from PNG. Whether it’s a great achievement for them or not, they qualified from a weak group and people are massively exaggerating how good the players in that squad are.
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| Quote ="AS108"The point is you don’t know if they’ll ‘go well’ seen as you’ve barely watched them. For all you know, they could be just as bad as the players you’ve listed but you and many others have decided they are great signings purely because they are from PNG. Whether it’s a great achievement for them or not, they qualified from a weak group and people are massively exaggerating how good the players in that squad are.'"
Let's be honest a high percent of imports from down under and from the islands, nobody has watched more than a couple of games worth. These two players, if you actually watched their RL World Cup games gave there all, and in doing so made some great yards, like props should do. Like I said they've got something I've not seen before at widnes and it looks like this has been spotted by numerous, natural supporters too.
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There is also one of Stanton Albert on the widnes instagram and FB. Excited to see the both of them play.
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There is also one of Stanton Albert on the widnes instagram and FB. Excited to see the both of them play.
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And? I can find you clips of players on the internet that make the most mundane player look like a world beater it's not hard it's called editing.
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And? I can find you clips of players on the internet that make the most mundane player look like a world beater it's not hard it's called editing.
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| Indeed, a'la when we signed James Greene from Hull KR....the reality was he was a 'gentle giant' that couldn't get into a struggling Leigh side. His Youtube highlights compiled by his agent Craig Murdock, he looked like a 'world beater' !!
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It's true. These two may well be good buys for Widnes and I don't wish to beltiile them but the truth is both are reserve/bush grade players of whom there is very little real supporting evidence.
This sudden obsessio with all theings PNG on this forum is frankly pathetic. Fiji lookedeven better than PNG but were roundly thumped by an Aussie team that then struggled to overcome England, Despite the myth peddled by arrogant Aussies, second grade NRL and Bush footy are not as good as SL in fact they are inferior in a very meaningfull way. These players are a massive riskas are all NRL/Australia based players coming to SL.
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| SL signings from Aus are going to get more hit and miss because we're having to go further down the food chain to sign anyone. Looking at who is usually available, its generally a choice between a washed up 'never was', someone who's career has stalled completely in their mid 20s, or someone untried. Going for the latter (which these PNG boys are, like Peteru at Leeds and even more so the kid Wigan signed) is likely to be boom or bust. But at least there is potential upside, compared to the other categories.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"SL signings from Aus are going to get more hit and miss because we're having to go further down the food chain to sign anyone. Looking at who is usually available, its generally a choice between a washed up 'never was', someone who's career has stalled completely in their mid 20s, or someone untried. Going for the latter (which these PNG boys are, like Peteru at Leeds and even more so the kid Wigan signed) is likely to be boom or bust. But at least there is potential upside, compared to the other categories.'"
I think there is another catagory and a fairly usefull one but again a risk.
Pauli Pauli at Wakefield is an obvious one - he shouldnt be in SL and were it not for a seies of unfortunate events he wouldn't be.
He's joined us at least for now to rebuild his career. He knows one big SL season will put him back in the NRL shop window. This is something he wouldn't be able to do in Aus. Even if it doesn't he at least gets on the radar in SL, which may get him a long term deal at Wakefield or more likely in his case a gig at one of the richer SL clubs.
This is short term for Walefield but a fairly safe bet in that at least we have a motivated player with attributes that simpl aren't available domestically. It's not much of a risk if he remains injurt free as he will look good in SL, he has to but I can't see us building a team around him.
Whether this is good for the game probably not, is it good for Trinity, probably.
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| shannon wakeman was an unknown last season at hudds, had one of those youtube clips that made him look awesome, went ok for us.. expect more this season with a decent pre season
jake mamo, example of an nrl player who we are lucky to have for one more season as i expect him to go back to an nrl club , star quality but come here to experience another country whilst young and get himself back in the shop window.. (having his former coach helped too mind!)
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