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| true, but its not like the refs get it right most of the time anyway is it
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| Quote ="Father Ted"Refs can't sin bin for foul play. That's been the rule since McCallum was in charge of the whistle blowers.
Lee should have been sent off. The On Report was ridiculous.
I agree with the on report provided the ref and the TJ's are unsighted. In those cases I think the On Report is justified.
There was no justification for the On Report in the Briers/Lee incident. Lee should have been sent off.'"
I'm with you on this one. Getting shut of "on report" would be throwing the baby out with the bathwater. What does need to happen though is the system should be applied properly and any referee deemed to be hiding behind it, should be disciplined.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Quote ="Father Ted"Refs can't sin bin for foul play. That's been the rule since McCallum was in charge of the whistle blowers.
Lee should have been sent off. The On Report was ridiculous.
I agree with the on report provided the ref and the TJ's are unsighted. In those cases I think the On Report is justified.
There was no justification for the On Report in the Briers/Lee incident. Lee should have been sent off.'"
I'm with you on this one. Getting shut of "on report" would be throwing the baby out with the bathwater. What does need to happen though is the system should be applied properly and any referee deemed to be hiding behind it, should be disciplined.'"
I'm not saying there shouldn't be a process for reporting incidents that the ref hasn't seen, merely that it shouldn't be an option available to the referee as this encourages the kind of abdication of responsibility we saw last night.
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| Don't all games get reviewed anyway? There isn't really any need for the "on report" option. Bentham bottled it and what ever little respect the players had for him was lost in that moment.
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| all games get reviewed by the 'match panel' anyway, but in my opinion should scrap the on report system no use as they will get picked up on anyway! all matches have a camera there recording them there should be a fourth official and if it looks dangerous but the ref isnt sure the 4th official has a gander at it and makes the decision, kind of like the review systems in cricket and american football where the coach or the captain calls for the decision to be reviewed.
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| IMO the Lee 'tackle' was a bad one. Briers was slightly crouched when he got hit but the fact that Lee cocked his arm and swung it is the issue.
I think Lee wanted to hit him across the chest but as Briers was crouched, he got hit smack in the mush which is unacceptable. When Briers stopped and crouched, Lee saw his opportunity to put the big hit on him and got it wrong - you could see by his immediate reaction that he knew he had.
I don't think there was intent on Lee's part to hit Briers in the face. The fact his timing and technique were wrong could have resulted in a bad injury for Briers. That means he should have walked and should pick up a ban with a warning about his technique.
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| I always thought the 'on report' system was for when the officials did not clearly see the incident in question. But nowadays instances in games are being reviewed by the disciplinary panel anyway, whether they had been officially put on report or not.
Bentham and the touch judges clearly saw Lee's high shot yesterday, the TJ knew it was a bad one, Bentham just bottled it. Would Lee have walked if Ganson was officiating? Absolutely.
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| Only thing that saved Lee was his instant recognition his actions.
Still a red though. Bentham spineless
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| Quote ="Redchemic"IMO the Lee 'tackle' was a bad one. Briers was slightly crouched when he got hit but the fact that Lee cocked his arm and swung it is the issue.
I think Lee wanted to hit him across the chest but as Briers was crouched, he got hit smack in the mush which is unacceptable. When Briers stopped and crouched, Lee saw his opportunity to put the big hit on him and got it wrong - you could see by his immediate reaction that he knew he had.
I don't think there was intent on Lee's part to hit Briers in the face. The fact his timing and technique were wrong could have resulted in a bad injury for Briers. That means he should have walked and should pick up a ban with a warning about his technique.'"
You've got it spot on there. I think it was just awful technique and very badly executed.
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| Should have gone, straight away. And it was intentional. If it gets reported, I wouldn't be surprised if Mr Moa is playing again before Mr Lee.
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Quote ="Roy Haggerty"Should have gone, straight away. And it was intentional. If it gets reported, I wouldn't be surprised if Mr Moa is playing again before Mr Lee.'"
Mr Lee didn't cop for much (2 games) www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... 6/7536167/
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Mr Lee didn't cop for much (2 games) www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... 6/7536167/
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Seems we have adopted the Aussie system of an early guilty plea will get a reduced ban
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| Well it's good to see myopia in Wire fans is alive and well
Lee should have walked no question
But so should Westwood, and Grix, and Waterhouse should have been binned along with Briers
Bentham took the touch judges report "he was already going down". If Briers had some bottle he'd just have been cleaned out instead of hit high
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| Quote ="Rock God X"The 'on report' system needs to go. All it does is give referees the opportunity to dodge making difficult decisions.'"
Not read the pages following so appologies if it has been mentioned but agree on report should go IMO it seems needless as the disciplinary pick up on incidents regardless of being on report or not.
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| Quote ="Code13"Well it's good to see myopia in Wire fans is alive and well
Lee should have walked no question
But so should Westwood, and Grix, and Waterhouse should have been binned along with Briers
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obviously.... that's why they're all up before the beak.
oh wait.......
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| Quote ="Code13"Well it's good to see myopia in Wire fans is alive and well
Lee should have walked no question
But so should Westwood, and Grix, and Waterhouse should have been binned along with Briers
Bentham took the touch judges report "he was already going down". If Briers had some bottle he'd just have been cleaned out instead of hit high'"
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| Quote ="Code13"Well it's good to see myopia in Wire fans is alive and well
Lee should have walked no question
But so should Westwood, and Grix, and Waterhouse should have been binned along with Briers
Bentham took the touch judges report "he was already going down". If Briers had some bottle he'd just have been cleaned out instead of hit high'"
There is no lip more wobbly than a Giants fan scorned.
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| After finally getting to watch the incident on the SL Show last night, I'm astounded that anyone can defend that tackle. The arm came back straight and was swung forwards while it was still straight. There was no attempt to tackle, just to decaptiate.
I'd suggest the reason that Briers was 'already going down' is because he could see what any two eyed fan of the game could see: "Oooh, this is going to hurt if I don't duck".
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| Quote ="Scooter Nik"After finally getting to watch the incident on the SL Show last night, I'm astounded that anyone can defend that tackle. The arm came back straight and was swung forwards while it was still straight. There was no attempt to tackle, just to decaptiate.
I'd suggest the reason that Briers was 'already going down' is because he could see what any two eyed fan of the game could see: "Oooh, this is going to hurt if I don't duck".'"
Yeah but apparently twelve other Warrington players committed identical atrocities over the course of the eighty minutes and should have been sent off too. It's just that only the Huddersfield home stand saw them, not the Sky cameras or the people watching at home.
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| Quote ="Scooter Nik"After finally getting to watch the incident on the SL Show last night, I'm astounded that anyone can defend that tackle. The arm came back straight and was swung forwards while it was still straight. There was no attempt to tackle, just to decaptiate.
I'd suggest the reason that Briers was 'already going down' is because he could see what any two eyed fan of the game could see: "Oooh, this is going to hurt if I don't duck".'"
Yes..yes I take your point. In mitigation...it was Lee Briers.
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| Quote ="Code13"Well it's good to see myopia in Wire fans is alive and well
Lee should have walked no question
But so should Westwood, and Grix, and Waterhouse should have been binned along with Briers
Bentham took the touch judges report "he was already going down". If Briers had some bottle he'd just have been cleaned out instead of hit high'"
The only myopia here is yours if you can't see that Tommy Lee's offence was far worse than anything else that went on on Saturday.
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| If its not violence its not league- None of this union soft stuff. A swinging arm directed at and landing on your head is part 't game laddy-Think yoursell lucky
We're hard up North.
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| Seriously, can people not frikken read? Oh, wait, no, its RLFANS.
Quote Lee should have walked no question
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Any defence by me in that sentence?
All I can see is Wire fans defending Westwood for his late, cynical hit from behind and off the ball on Brown.
But lets not let facts get in the way of things eh.
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All I can see is Wire fans defending Westwood for his late, cynical hit from behind and off the ball on Brown.
But lets not let facts get in the way of things eh.'"
Westwood should've been given a yellow after I saw it on a replay. IMO of course.
From behind? Looked like side on, to me, the kind of thing you see quite frequently, just with varying degrees of "being late", be it a split second (usually deemed to be "already committed"icon_wink.gif, or a few seconds. To read what you, and others, have said, you'd think Westwood waited 10 minutes before running up behind Brown and clobbering him. Get a grip.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Discuss?'"
Isn`t it a frisbee shaped thing,slung by big Russian women,built like brick outhouses?
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