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| Quote ="MrPhilb"I think the knights should play England instead of the french'"
Nah, it'd be like a training session - all going easy on each other, trying not to get injured, etc.
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| Is there really any point in England playing France next week?
It will be such a no contest that there'll be very little gained from the game thereby making the risk reward equation too lopsided.
Should we lose James Roby or another key player to injury in a meaningless 70 point thrashing of France it will be a travesty.
France need to accept Gouldings offer to resign and appoint someone who the players respect and relate to.
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| Bobbie goulding was always a bad idea. Beyond his playing ability back in the day Ive never heard him spoken of as anything other than an ignorant, thuggish git. And have seen his exploits around widnes pubs at weekends several times myself. Most people who dont even know him first hand around here have nothing but contempt for him, never mind the players he actually has to work with.
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| Last minute we decided to come over from sunny east hull, thought Westwood stood head and shoulders (not the hair product) above anyone on the pitch by a mile.
Thought Ratchford had a decent game and Charnley proved again how dangerous he can be and will be pushing for full England honours.
Not sure how to take Myler as i dont see him play often at all; just seems to try too hard and leaves me expecting more - he looks like he always seems to take the wrong options and missed a fair few chances to offload and put a player through into a gap thats there and tries to do it himself. Also seems like he just hasnt got that natural leadership ability and seems very reserved when he should be the loudest voice on the pitch directing the team.
PS. we were the ones with the 'HULL KR ON TOUR' flag up.
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| Predictably people are blaming BG for the French teams shortcoming's. They are probably the same people who blamed John Monie after the World cup too. conveniently forgetting that the key players for the French club aren't available for the national team. If Bobbie has done one thing its restore some pride in the French shirt and got a number of the lads back onside, its a shame the Catalan club don't feel the same as its playing staff.
People are quickly forgetting that Bobbie took the French boys to some credible results in the 4N last time.
Either way it looks as if the BG doom mongers will have to wait as he has now revoked his desision to resign.
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| Agree with what has been said about the players and the French performance.
The crowd disapointed me. Warrington, Wigan, Saints, among many other Championship clubs all within 25mins of the ground that were only charging £3 entry. Car parking was free for those that could fit in although due to roadworks just outside the ground did delay getting away from the ground by about half an hour. Think when we travelled an hour and a half to support the England lads and give a bit of support to Kris Welham and Liam Watts it wouldn't have been much of an effort for some of the others that live much much closer.
I was impressed with Ratchford at full back, took the high ball effortlessly and his kick returns were as solid as any other options. Not as dangerous in attack as Tomkins obviously but wouldn't let anyone down if called up.
There certainly didn't seem to be a director on the pitch. Someone needed to keep the side playing to the game plan but it looked like they went away from it quite a bit.
I will start by saying that I thought Kris Welham made good yards going forward especially out of his own half, was unlucky not to get to a little kick through for the first try and then a bit later when Myler made the wrong option not to pass to him in open space. However I did think when he was without the ball he looked a bit lathargic and tired. Liam Watts was strong in the tackle often taking 4 French to get him down and with a bit more confidence in the players around him he could have easily got offloads out.
Pretty disapointed in Westermans performance out there, if Phil Clarke is right and he's going to be a man of steel at least once in his career then he is going to have to improve to even be worthy of lacing up Paul Sculthorpes boots! Not having a dig about a Hull player as I thought Danny Houghton was also very good and could easily be in the first team. Just think as he was chosen as captain and is a known play maker he should have given his side a bit more direction out there.
Oh and the reason I chose to go to this Knights game is because I may not get the chance to go to the England games due to us having a Kiwi in the side. I accept Heighington as he has and English father and think that is perfectly acceptable but for a person who's self professed that he's always wanted to play for the Kiwi's he should not be in the side and unless he is dropped from the 17 I will not be going to any of the games.
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| Quote ="The Clan"Is there really any point in England playing France next week?'"
There's about as much point in England playing France next week as there is in England playing Wales the week after.
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| Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn"There's about as much point in England playing France next week as there is in England playing Wales the week after.'"
Have to agree with Keith, pointless game. Out of interest if we lose to Wales, and they have a stormer in the comp do they get into the 4 nations next year and we have to play Europe to gain a spot. Know it ain't gonna happen just interested
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| Quote ="nick hkr"
The crowd disapointed me. Warrington, Wigan, Saints, among many other Championship clubs all within 25mins of the ground that were only charging £3 entry. '"
If you don't know it's on, you're not going to turn up.
Worst publicity surrounding an international game I've ever not heard of.
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| Live 3 miles from ground never knew it was on
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| Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn"There's about as much point in England playing France next week as there is in England playing Wales the week after.'"
If we are going to build the international game then we have to play these games. We cannot just wait for a competitive Welsh National team to rise out of nowhere and beat England, Australia and New Zealand, there has to be the complementary drivers of a strong local competition developing talent and the opportunity and reason to play the game as a talented young sportsman
Look at the Italian side in the 6 Nations – they get 5 competitive internationals every year plus the Autumn internationals and this has helped to seriously raise the profile of this sport in Italy. League is starting to take off in the North of Italy but they will be hampered by people comparing it unfavourably to the Union game due to the high profile presence of international Union
A strong and successful international scene would help our sport no end... raising its profile in the media and the wider public, it will help to drive participation numbers through this increased exposure and it will help professional teams at all levels through increased attendances
And what is the attitude of the fans... no point playing them!
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| Quote ="Cragganmore Kid"If you don't know it's on, you're not going to turn up.
Worst publicity surrounding an international game I've ever not heard of.'"
Agreed. I didn't even know it was on. I reckon for £3 I'd have definately gone along.
Perhaps the RL should try and get the clubs to sell on some tickets on a commission basis? Maybe that would get the word around more by using their PR links with their speccies?
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| Even one of the players didn't know who & where they were playing until they got in camp.
I had to tweet for info, then a re-tweet campaign came about saying something like 'spread the word, Knights vs France @ LSV. RT seen as the RFL cannot be bothered'.
This then lead to the England RL page having some snippet of info about the match & a preview.
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| £3 to watch some of the best players in SL.
You'd expect 1-2k from Leigh alone if it was actually advertised anywhere. Then with Saints, Wigan, Widnes, Warrington and Salford all so close plus a few from Yorkshire, at that price you should be looking at 7 or 8k. Even if it was just regular emails telling the fans.
The bigger the crowd, the more credible the game is.
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| Quote ="very red robin"Last minute we decided to come over from sunny east hull, thought Westwood stood head and shoulders (not the hair product) above anyone on the pitch by a mile.'" Why is Ben Westwood playing for the Knights!? We all know what he can do and that he performs well at international level.
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"Why is Ben Westwood playing for the Knights!? We all know what he can do and that he performs well at international level.'"
Only played something like forty minutes in the last couple of months due to injuries. Needed to get some miles in the legs before the Four Nations.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Only played something like forty minutes in the last couple of months due to injuries. Needed to get some miles in the legs before the Four Nations.'"
Good call. I forgot he'd been injured.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Only played something like forty minutes in the last couple of months due to injuries. Needed to get some miles in the legs before the Four Nations.'"
Won't he be playing France next week though?
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Won't he be playing France next week though?'"
your point being? Is he not allowed to take part in both games having been out for a while?
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| Quote ="jesus-is-coming"Live 3 miles from ground never knew it was on'"
I'm 110 miles away and knew it was on. I haven't bought a RL paper since the end of the season and have relied on the Sky Sports News App for iPhone and anything that is on text and message forums.
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| Quote ="nick hkr"I'm 110 miles away and knew it was on. I haven't bought a RL paper since the end of the season and have relied on the Sky Sports News App for iPhone and anything that is on text and message forums.'"
surprisingly not all RL fans have the iPhone app, or come on here.
I saw a link on Twitter so went to it. I know a lot of people who had no idea it was happening, and would have gone had they known about it.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"I think the knights should play England instead of the french'"
Now that would be a lot more interesting.
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| Quote ="EHW"surprisingly not all RL fans have the iPhone app, or come on here.
I saw a link on Twitter so went to it. I know a lot of people who had no idea it was happening, and would have gone had they known about it.'"
But yet if it is on the app it is on the website, if it's on the website it is generally on sky text, if it is on sky text it is in other media streams and clearly if 2000 people knew it was on it couldn't have been that hard to know.
Yes it should and could have been better publicised but it still is no excuse when plenty of other people knew it was on.
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| Quote ="nick hkr"But yet if it is on the app it is on the website, if it's on the website it is generally on sky text, if it is on sky text it is in other media streams and clearly if 2000 people knew it was on it couldn't have been that hard to know.
Yes it should and could have been better publicised but it still is no excuse when plenty of other people knew it was on.'"
Of course it's an excuse. Not everyone who knows about something will attend, so you need to spread the word as far as possible to catch those who, if they knew about it, would attend.
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