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| Quote ="a.n Other"If you think that, why did you state this earlier?
Make your mind up.'"
i have made up my mind
i think its funny you spent that amount of time trying to make me look hypocritical
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| Quote ="Starbug"You really are commenting on things you havent a clue about
But anyway , can you help me on this
How has the Melbourne Storm been financed ?
And at what cost financially ?'"
NRL clubs have a fulltime CEO and marketing people.
yes, all RL clubs should have them
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| Quote ="Starbug"Why ?'"
because crowds are poop and should be better and over time the game is showing massive growth in SL which will flow on to lower down as money gets better.
just trust me.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"should be better..................
just trust me.'"
Dally for RFL Chief Exec Officer.
He's way ahead of his time with his pinpoint targetting of the games' troubled hot spots.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"i have made up my mind
i think its funny you spent that amount of time trying to make me look hypocritical'"
No time at all - and you are hypocritacal, you dont just look it.
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| Quote ="littlerich"Dally for RFL Chief Exec Officer.
He's way ahead of his time with his pinpoint targetting of the games' troubled hot spots.'"
thanks for your support, it means so much
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| Quote ="a.n Other"No time at all - and you are hypocritacal, you dont just look it.'"
so looking it and being it are different eh?
thanks for your help there.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"so looking it and being it are different eh?
thanks for your help there.'"
Your welcome.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"thanks for your support, it means so much'"
I usually give my support to the needy at least once during the year. Until today i was fast running out of time. My conscience is now clear for another 12 months.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"there already is a paying TV deal for NL1/2 clubs which is tied to certain criteria.
its a start. clearly down the track a higher TV deal will help a lot.
and crowds should grow too as well.
=#4000FFNL1 heartland clubs should be averaging at least 4000 - 5000 fans.'"
What crowds do Newtown and North Sydney get in their comp? Or the rest of the teams in the NSW Cup for that matter?
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| Quote ="dally messenger"=#FF0000NRL clubs have a fulltime CEO and marketing people.
yes, all RL clubs should have them'"
Yes but they are the equivalent to SL , all clubs should have them , but not all clubs can afford them , and at the level many clubs are at , they dont need them
Many clubs at Championship level are run by people who already work for the chairmen/owners of the club in their other businesses
And it's no good having a F/T marketing man if you dont give him a budget
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| Quote ="dally messenger"because crowds are poop and =#FF0000should be better and over time the game is showing massive growth in SL which will flow on to lower down as =#FF0000money gets better.
just trust me.'"
Yes we know they SHOULD , but why,how ? , what can clubs do to get more fans ?
Just saying something should happen isn't exactly giving much idea how to make something happen
I ' Should ' be a millionaire , but I'm not
And what is this money that ' gets better ' ? , where does that come from ?
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| What would be the cost of setting up and funding a SL club outside the heartlands until it could become a self sustaining business ?
Should the RFL/SKY fund expansion in either SL or the Championships directly in the same way that News Int have funded the Melbourne Storm ?
And is that what should have happened to the Celtic Crusaders ?
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| Quote ="littlerich"I usually give my support to the needy at least once during the year. Until today i was fast running out of time. My conscience is now clear for another 12 months.'"
you shouldve saved it for halifax, more needy than me or you
crowds of 2000 after 130 years, they need all the fans they can get
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| Quote ="a.n Other"What crowds do Newtown and North Sydney get in their comp? Or the rest of the teams in the NSW Cup for that matter?'"
newtown and north sydney are clubs with little relevance to RL in australia now
newtown 1000 - 2000, nths - 800.
norths havent given up returning to the nrl, newtown are just a feeder club for an nrl team.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Yes but they are the equivalent to SL , all clubs should have them , but not all clubs can afford them , and at the level many clubs are at , they dont need them
Many clubs at Championship level are run by people who already work for the chairmen/owners of the club in their other businesses
And it's no good having a F/T marketing man if you dont give him a budget'"
fair enough
heres the point, things need to change. many clubs are going nowhere and dieing a slow death
for example why are leighs crowds so cr*p with a fantastic brand new stadium?
why cant a heartland club like fax also get crowds of 4000.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Yes we know they SHOULD , but why,how ? , what can clubs do to get more fans ?
Just saying something should happen isn't exactly giving much idea how to make something happen
I ' Should ' be a millionaire , but I'm not
And what is this money that ' gets better ' ? , where does that come from ?'"
1. firstly im bullish on RL in general. SL has shown with the right development massive growth can occur. NL1 gets fairly good TV ratings, so that should generate a fair enough TV deal in the future. as SL also grows interst in RL will grow and there will be a trickle down for all parts of the game
2. some clubs should be getting much bigger crowds now. leigh, fax for example. this would help other clubs via larger away fans and give all clubs more money
3. youve said heartland clubs often can find rich backers to support them. clearly thats important.
4. current crowds are pathetic. it shouldnt be hard to tripple them with a little bit of effort. games are now on TV getting the comeptition more attention, which should help
5. richard lewis
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| Quote ="dally messenger"you shouldve saved it for halifax, more needy than me or you
crowds of 2000 after 130 years, they need all the fans they can get'"
Change the record you moron.
In and amongst those 130 years our highest crowd is 29,153. We used to get 6,000+ in the eighties. We've had our ups, we've had our downs. When reveiwing 130 years you don't just look at the last 6 during a highly unsuccesful spell.
No doubt you'll live till your 87 and in all those years you'll never stop being a prick.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"1. firstly im bullsh[ii[/it on RL in general. '"
Yep - you got that right.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"1. firstly im bullish on RL in general. SL has shown with the right development massive growth can occur. NL1 gets fairly good TV ratings, so that should generate a fair enough TV deal in the future. as SL also grows interst in RL will grow and there will be a trickle down for all parts of the game
2. some clubs should be getting much bigger crowds now. leigh, fax for example. this would help other clubs via larger away fans and give all clubs more money
3. youve said heartland clubs often can find rich backers to support them. clearly thats important.
4. current crowds are pathetic. it shouldnt be hard to tripple them with a little bit of effort. games are now on TV getting the comeptition more attention, which should help
5. richard lewis'"
Jesus wept. What a vague and wooly post that is. Coulda woulda shoulda. You're full of it Dally.
One question pertaining to all that crap you've just typed up. How?
I reckon 10 chairmen of the Championship are sat reading your post thinking....."F*** me, why didn't i think of that? Get me Dally on the phone right now....."
You're flakier than a Cadbury's 99.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"newtown and north sydney are clubs with little relevance to RL in australia now
newtown 1000 - 2000, nths - 800.
norths havent given up returning to the nrl, newtown are just a feeder club for an nrl team.'"
That is shocking to say they play in the biggest RL region in the world where the game is the national sport and there isn't any other compition from Soccer or Rugby Union.
An embarrasment in fact. Why aren't they pulling in 4 or 5 thousand per match?
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| Quote ="dally messenger"fair enough
heres the point, =#FF0000things need to change. many clubs are going nowhere and dieing a slow death
for example why are leighs crowds so cr*p with a fantastic brand new stadium?
why cant a heartland club like fax also get crowds of 4000.'"
=#FF0000How ?
Leighs crowds are crap because
1. people prefer the old ground 2. we cannot be promoted By what happens on the pitch 3. many locals will not watch non top tier RL 4 . a general apathy about the sport 4. last year we were crap 5/6/7/8 many other reasons too complicated to post
So once again ' HOW ' do things need to change , and dont just say they do
HOW ? , What needs to be done ?
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| Quote ="a.n Other"That is shocking to say they play in the biggest RL region in the world where the game is the national sport and there isn't any other compition from Soccer or Rugby Union.
An embarrasment in fact. Why aren't they pulling in 4 or 5 thousand per match?'"
nice try.
in australia if you arent in the nrl you are dead pretty much.
meaningless.
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| Quote ="a.n Other"That is shocking to say they play in the biggest RL region in the world where the game is the national sport and there isn't any other compition from Soccer or Rugby Union.
An embarrasment in fact. Why aren't they pulling in 4 or 5 thousand per match?'"
It's a pity that Dally is too thick to realize the irony.
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It's a pity that Dally is too thick to realize the irony.'"
the funny thing is all these silly little traps people set thinking theyll catch me out
the thing is, unlike others, i dont lie to make my points so you wont catch me out like this,
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