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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"Did Cas complete a 'set of six' in the 2nd half ?? Don't think they did, they were lucky to get nil. Was looking forward to this game, what an anti climax !'"
Don’t worry, you can watch Leigh miner rangers under 16s v Fev
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| Quote ="Lebron James"Don’t worry, you can watch Leigh miner rangers under 16s v Fev
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Fev by 32???
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Pretty much went how I expected although wasn’t quite expecting a zero for Cas.
For all the complaints about too many ex-forwards coaching in SL and can’t we have more HB’s coaching. Well in the last 160 mins of playoff rugby, Powell who has been lauded for his teams play has seen his team score a mere 6 points (and they were the scruffiest 6 points in GF history with 30 secs left) whilst his opponents have racked up 38. Don’t know why people were saying Cas had learnt from last year, there was no evidence of it until they faced this fixture and you got the true answer tonight.
Fully expect Wigan to continue the Wigan/Leeds stranglehold next week in the GF and make it 11 wins out of the last 12 years between the two teams at the big boys table whilst the kiddy table looks on enviously.'"
Not sure it’s the coaching to be honest. I’m pretty sure Powell has not told our players to screw up on the first tackle every time we get a set on the opposition line.
The problem is we have players who can look like superstars in games that don’t matter, but lose composure when it does.
At the moment we don’t have a player who can pull us through these big games. When it’s comes to the crunch, having the likes of Sinfield, McGuire, O’Loughlin, Tomkins or Leuluai (and others in years gone by) has been the difference between winning and losing big games. We don’t have one, hence the inclination to underperform when it really matters.
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| Quote ="Lebron James"Don’t worry, you can watch Leigh miner rangers under 16s v Fev
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I know, I am going to the game and looking forward to it, thanks.
Where were you on here last night, did you enjoy Saints v Warrington. I did, was a great game.
But the thing I don't understand is, you don't seem able to comment on it....why not love ?
You can 'dish it out' but you cannot take it. I can 'do both'...but not you.
Have you visited the Warrington forum, you have your own topic.
Consider yourself an 'F - list celebrity' !
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"At the moment we don’t have a player who can pull us through these big games. When it’s comes to the crunch, having the likes of Sinfield, McGuire, O’Loughlin, Tomkins or Leuluai (and others in years gone by) has been the difference between winning and losing big games. We don’t have one, hence the inclination to underperform when it really matters.'"
I think this is more the issue, there are 6 games a year of importance in the Northern Hemisphere club game and the rest are filler.
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"I know, I am going to the game and looking forward to it, thanks.
Where were you on here last night, did you enjoy Saints v Warrington. I did, was a great game.
But the thing I don't understand is, you don't seem able to comment on it....why not love ?
You can 'dish it out' but you cannot take it. I can 'do both'...but not you.
Have you visited the Warrington forum, you have your own topic.
Consider yourself an 'F - list celebrity' !
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I enjoyed the game between 2 full time teams who can field 17 players, a reserve team, an academy team and scholarship teams. 2 teams who also own their own stadium and 2 teams who won’t be in league one next season because of a 20 point deduction for breaking the rules. Sorry I didn’t comment, I was away for the night with the family In the lakes
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| Quote ="ducknumber1"I think this is more the issue, there are 6 games a year of importance in the Northern Hemisphere club game and the rest are filler.'"
I’m not sure I completely agree with you to such an extreme. To get to most of those games there’s the need to be consistent to some extent.
To me it highlights the importance of big game players. Those who can bring out their best performances when it really matters. And they exist in all sports, not just RL.
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| I forgot to add “can afford to field reserve teams, academy teams” etc
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Not sure it’s the coaching to be honest. I’m pretty sure Powell has not told our players to screw up on the first tackle every time we get a set on the opposition line.'"
Obviously he didn’t tell them that, but whatever he did tell them they didn’t follow and execute or come close too. That has to fall a bit on the coach as well as players. That he wouldn’t have told them to screw up the first tackle every time you had a set on their line yet they did only raises rightful questions & criticism of his coaching ability at the biggest occasion, it doesn’t absolve him from it. If a one off then fair enough that can happen but he has a poor record in crucial games.
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| Quote ="Lebron James"Don’t worry, you can watch Leigh miner rangers under 16s v Fev
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How do you have the nerve to post here again
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| Quote ="Lebron James"I enjoyed the game between 2 full time teams who can field 17 players, a reserve team, an academy team and scholarship teams. 2 teams who also own their own stadium and 2 teams who won’t be in league one next season because of a 20 point deduction for breaking the rules. Sorry I didn’t comment, I was away for the night with the family In the lakes
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Ah, so you not only know FA, But you're a part timer as well.
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| Quote ="Lebron James"I enjoyed the game between 2 full time teams who can field 17 players, a reserve team, an academy team and scholarship teams. 2 teams who also own their own stadium and 2 teams who won’t be in league one next season because of a 20 point deduction for breaking the rules. Sorry I didn’t comment, I was away for the night with the family In the lakes
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Warrington don't own their stadium , dip
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Obviously he didn’t tell them that, but whatever he did tell them they didn’t follow and execute or come close too. That has to fall a bit on the coach as well as players. That he wouldn’t have told them to screw up the first tackle every time you had a set on their line yet they did only raises rightful questions & criticism of his coaching ability at the biggest occasion, it doesn’t absolve him from it. If a one off then fair enough that can happen but he has a poor record in crucial games.'"
Maybe.
I guess there’s always the argument that most clubs would swap making a final and semi-final in consecutive seasons.
My view is that we lack a big game player, not a big game coach.
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| Composure. These big games are rarely high scoring. You've just got to go set for set, but just like last year's final, Cas just panicked when they come up against champion defence. Way to beat that defence is keep banging the door until you break through. Repeat set after repeat set. How many times to Cas kick on the third tackle!? Bonkers from them. Thats where Gale should be taking the game by the scruff of the neck.
But well done Wigan. Monster performance.
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| Quote ="Lebron James"Sorry I didn’t comment, I was away for the night with the family In the lakes'"
Sounds legit.
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| We just got the job done tonight with no fuss and played ideal play off rugby. I thought Cas lost their identity tonight which they built up last year and at times this season. They were kicking it out five mins in and trying to play a really conservative game and you’d have to go some to beat a Wigan side at that game when you consider a lot of our players have been grinding these games out for the best part of ten years now.
If Cas got the chance over I think they’d come and play a more expansive game.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Maybe.
I guess there’s always the argument that most clubs would swap making a final and semi-final in consecutive seasons.
My view is that we lack a big game player, not a big game coach.'"
Or experience?it will come
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| Quote ="cas all the way"100 tickets left in our stand if any neutrals fancy it. 4400 Cas fans will be loud.
I either see Wigan by 14+ or Cas by less than a score. Depends which Cas team turn up. Been unpredictable this year.'"
Wigan by exactly 14. Called it here. The wrong Cas turned up. Not all Cas playing bad though. Our defence was decent. Just silly penalties from Milner and Wigan defence.
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| Quote ="Lebron James"Or experience?it will come
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Maybe. I don’t really think it’s fair to use the 2014 challenge Cup Final team to beat the current team with. It was more or less a completely different set of players, particularly in pivotal positions.
My worry s that our pivots aren’t improving with experience. I thought Gale would benefit from both last year’s grand final and World Cup Final. But he
was equally as poor tonight.
McShane, Gale and Roberts were our pivots last year. Again, none of them seemed to have learnt from last year’s big games.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"I’m not sure I completely agree with you to such an extreme. To get to most of those games there’s the need to be consistent to some extent.
To me it highlights the importance of big game players. Those who can bring out their best performances when it really matters. And they exist in all sports, not just RL.'"
I think we're on the same boat to an extent- there are 6 big games (semis and finals) each year that need these big game players you mention to win. Its much easier to be the big team for the rest of the year (see St Helens 2018, Cas 2017 as recent examples and, as a Leeds fan, Leeds 2005).
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"Warrington don't own their stadium , dip poop'"
Hmm I think you will find they do.
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"Warrington don't own their stadium , dip poop'"
Errr... yes they do! Warrington sports holdings IS Warrington Wolves.
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