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| Quote ="Karen"We set up a separate thread to stop all threads being derailed by the current comparison between TM & TJ. Please use that thread for comparison discussions and this one for discussing the Golden Boot. Thank you.'"
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| Interestingly it is the first time a winger has won the award.
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| Players who played internationals in 2018 and who are better players than Thomas Makinson:
James Tedesco
Dallin Watene-Zelesniak
Shaun Johnson
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Players who played internationals in 2018 and who are better players than Thomas Makinson:
James Tedesco
Dallin Watene-Zelesniak'"
Better players? Probably
Played better? No way
DWZ needs to learn how to tackle for starters.
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And comes across as a spoilt brat in doing so.
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And comes across as a spoilt brat in doing so.
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| Quote ="Karen"And comes across as a spoilt brat in doing so.'"
Unfortunately he has a point, Tedesco seems like the obvious choice.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Unfortunately he has a point, Tedesco seems like the obvious choice.'"
Why? He's played in 3 International games, one of which Australia lost.
The fact he was a winner in the SOO & Championship is immaterial as those competitions weren't considered in this.
I quote: Quote The award is chosen by rugby league media in both the northern and southern hemispheres and covers all fully sanctioned international games from last December’s World Cup final to Sunday’s second Test between England and New Zealand.'"
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Unfortunately he has a point, Tedesco seems like the obvious choice.'"
No he doesn’t because NSW performances don’t matter because they aren’t internationals. If the Aussies want to see an Aussie win it then play more internationals. Same when Sinfield won 2012 I believe the Aussies didn’t bother playing anything at the end of the year.
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| Quote ="Karen"Why? He's played in 3 International games, one of which Australia lost.
The fact he was a winner in the SOO & Championship is immaterial as those competitions weren't considered in this.
I quote: '"
Spot on!
He was alos very much outplayed by Watene-Zelezniak in the NZ v Australia game last month, who has been outshone by Tommy Makinson throughout 2018. Tommy has been great for England, and his performance last weekend (both defensively and in attack) is up there with the best individual performances I have seen from an England/GB player in a test game. Fully deserved imo
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| Congratulations from a Pie, outstanding performances for England, makes you relieved he barely gets a pass at Saints
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Players who played internationals in 2018 and who are better players than Thomas Makinson:
James Tedesco
Dallin Watene-Zelesniak
Shaun Johnson'"
James Tedesco played in an Aus side that lost against New Zealand and nowt else.
zelezniak played for a New Zealand team that has lost the series to england (plus was at fault for every England try in first test)
Shaun johnson Played for a New Zealand team that has lost the series to England.
The best test side this year has been England after winning a one off test with NZ, warm up against the French and then a series against New Zealand.
It should be an English player that wins it under the rules.
Correct choice and we’ll deserved for me. Although I am biased against Wakefield so it should have Bernard Tom johnstone.
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| Mal Meninga, Wally Lewis, Andrew Johns, Darren Lockyer, Cameron Smith, Billy Slater, Johnathan Thurston and now Tommy Makinson...
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| Quote ="Karen"And comes across as a spoilt brat in doing so.'"
Because he disagrees with you?
Fittler is spot on, the Golden Boot Award has been devalued by the pointless rule change. It's ridiculous to award it based only on internationals as there are so few of them.
Makinson is a fine winger but to join a list of winners like Lewis, Kenny, Sterling, Hanley, Johns, Lockyer and Thurston is embarrassing and I would have said the same had Jake Connor had won it.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Because he disagrees with you?
Fittler is spot on, the Golden Boot Award has been devalued by the pointless rule change. It's ridiculous to award it based only on internationals as there are so few of them.
Makinson is a fine winger but to join a list of winners like Lewis, Kenny, Sterling, Hanley, Johns, Lockyer and Thurston is embarrassing and I would have said the same had Jake Connor had won it.'"
He isn’t spot on. That’s the issue. Just like the salty bitter Wakefield fan above, he has no clue about what the golden boot actually means this year! Fittler, like batsman still thinks it’s rugby league equivalent of the ballon d’or which it clearly isn’t.
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| To only have international footy as a criteria is ridiculous. We are a sport that plays very little international games.
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| Quote ="kobashi"To only have international footy as a criteria is ridiculous. We are a sport that plays very little international games.'"
Yep. A player could have one good game and win the golden boot, how ridiculous does that seem?
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| Quote ="homme vaste"Mal Meninga, Wally Lewis, Andrew Johns, Darren Lockyer, Cameron Smith, Billy Slater, Johnathan Thurston and now Tommy Makinson...'"
nah....not bitter at all
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| Quote ="Call Me God"nah....not bitter at all
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Out of curiosity how on earth does this show me to be bitter? so I am guessing you put him on the same pedestal as the likes of Wally Lewis?
In all fairness I actually wasn't aware they now base the award solely on international performances... what's the logic in That? As my post states above a player could have 1 good game and win the golden boot, just doesn't make any sense.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"Out of curiosity how on earth does this show me to be bitter?
so I am guessing you put him on the same pedestal as the likes of Wally Lewis?
In all fairness I actually wasn't aware they now base the award solely on international performances... what's the logic in That? As my post states above a player could have 1 good game and win the golden boot, just doesn't make any sense.'"
nah.....not bitter at all
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| If the lack of internationals leads to an "embarrassing" choice, then have more internationals.
Makinson played well at the weekend, and was solid in the other game he played. Two games in a year is a pathetic amount, but there have only been four internationals for England in 2018, with one to go.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Players who played internationals in 2018 and who are better players than Thomas Makinson:
James Tedesco
Dallin Watene-Zelesniak
Shaun Johnson'"
It’s not about who’s a better player, it’s about who has put in the most stand-out performances and Makinson has been outstanding in Sunmer and Autumn internationals against the Kiwis.
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| Quote ="Psychedelic Casual"It’s not about who’s a better player, it’s about who has put in the most stand-out performances and Makinson has been outstanding in Sunmer and Autumn internationals against the Kiwis.'"
Indeed....but he's not a wakefield player, eh homme vaste
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"James Tedesco played in an Aus side that lost against New Zealand and nowt else.'"
Tedesco was MOM in the recent Aus match against Tonga so has played in 2 Internationals in 2018.
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| Quote ="Karen"Why? He's played in 3 International games, one of which Australia lost. '"
James Tedesco was not in the Aus squad for the World Cup final as Billy Slater was FB. So apart from playing against NZ and Tonga where is the other one?
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