Yes 100%

Sho me proof that they are committing suicide from what he has said or the likes of him. Interesting fact the suicide rate in transgender ppl is 40% studies have shown that it doesn't make a difference if they are accepted or not it stats the same these peolke have mental health problems a d until we address that the suicide rate will be high irrespective if what some rugby player is saying.

Did Folau mention transgender people ? or have you chucked that one in for effect.
Just for balance, did we have bushfires and droughts before same sex marriage was permitted ?

I think it's far to say that bushfires along with droughts predate the human species, I wonder why they were "sent"

haha. Twitter generation? I'm a bit older than that. What I wrote wasn't 'outrage' it was just a passing thought, but good on you for pigeon-holing me and what I wrote.

I mentioned that religion is a bit nuts, and you became outraged, called me a fascist, accused me exactly of what you're doing in the reply, and I'm the internet snowflake?!?!?

Jesus wept.

What it comes down to is I and many others see this as hate speech and therefore see the wider implications of this (not just one person with an ‘opinion’) and you don’t.
So, say a similar comment were made in relation to black people and Grenfell, would that still be free speech?

By the way, answer yes and you’re a dck, answer no and you’re the same but a hypocritical one.

Folou didn’t come into anyone’s house and said those words, he gave them in a sermon didn’t he? That was broadcast on Facebook? How many of you watched it live? None, stop being offended by everything.

He might sound batpoop crazy but I agree totally with the anti abortion stance, it’s legalised killing of babies.

Is it

To be fair if we were to find a single cell organism on Mars the moon wherever it would be all over the news about life on Mars etc yet its not life when its on earth in a womb??

On the flip side, people call for euthanasia. Is that not murder?

Virtually all religions have a long and shameful history of taking control of women's reproductive rights - hence why some of them fight so hard against the right to have an abortion; closely followed by their weird obsessions with who is sticking what into who, chopping bits off babies, and what you have to eat on what day of the week. It's genuinely baffling to me that this outdated nonsense still persists - and that idiots like Isreal Folau haven't realised that his crackpot beliefs are self-evidently life-limiting; hence his loss of a multi-million dollar livelihood.

Reproductive rights? Women’s rights? They can dress it up all they want they are deciding to kill a baby inside the womb.

They use the argument to say what if they are raped by their disabled brother and that child might put the mother’s life at risk. What bull plop. What they mean is they want to shag anyone they want and if they get caught they get a second chance and treat is as a secondary last chance form of contraception.

They ain’t kidding anyone and if they don’t want the child there’s plenty of couples out there who struggle to have children who will take on the child.

What an appalling, disgusting comment that is.

You shouldn’t be appalled at the comment, you should be appalled at the process.

Which process? Your process of generalising and degrading rape victims?

No. What I’m saying is I bet there’s 1% of abortions are from rapes, but the others are just using that as an excuse to get the law passed.

I was going to post a derogatory comment about what choices were open to your mum, but thought better of it. You obviously have strong views on this, be they religious or moral and I accept your stance, but personal experiences for both my wife and other female relations show that the option of Abortion is a necessary one, for medical and economical reasons. 25% (rough figure, based on 2017 birth/abortion data available) of pregnancies are terminated in the UK per year. I have no idea how many were a "choice" or were done on medial grounds, but if you take 192,000 abortions and compare it with the 35,000 reported rapes, then your 1% stance looks a little like hype-bowl.

I understand the point of doing so to save mums life, or when the child would have a poor quality of life and a short one at that, I understand there are complexities involved but I’d hazard a guess that the majority are for vanity purposes like unwanted pregnancies.

Hardly solid foundations on which to build a case for any argument I'd say. But then, these often strongly felt emotions are based on little more than myth and belief rather than science.......if science were to take the lead, then ALL religions would be exposed as shams.

Sales is based around 3 pillars.

Fear: Fear of missing out.
Uncertainty: Making someone doubt themselves as to what will happen if they do not buy.
Doubt: The feeling that if you don't buy, have you made the right choice and what if you haven't.....
FUD.
We in sales stole this directly from Religion

If on the other hand, you are making this stance based on a moral decision and not the doctrine of a belief based "cult", then your decision is yours and yours alone. At no stage does your moral belief give you the right to dictate to others what they can and can not do.

In either case, the decision to abort is not, will never be and has never been yours and that's an actual fact and not me Hazarding a guess

I don't reckon this is the place to be discussing all this really is it? You're dealing with extremely sensitive subjects that strongly polarise opinion. Leave it alone.

Agreed, as for Mr Folau he has certainly 'lost the plot'. He thinks everybody wants to hear his opinions. Guess he's a bit bored now, with no Rugby to play.

Give it a week and everyone will be too busy being offended by something else to care or even remember about this

Say's who? I take umbridge at that stance Sir. I demand satisfaction!!!! Pistols at Dawn I say, Pistols at Dawn!

You assume I'm a Sir? Sexist!

Fine and dandy - don't have an abortion then.

Your point is probably the best stance on all of this.

Don't like abortions, don't have one. Don't like gay marriage, don't get married to someone of the same sex. etc etc

I don't have a problem with what people choose to believe, it's when they try to apply those beliefs to everyone else, that's when I have a problem with it.

"I'm perfectly happy for people to have these toys, and to play with them at home, and hug them to themselves and so on, and to share them with other people who come around and play with the toys. So that's absolutely fine. They are not to make me play with these toys. I will not play with the toys. Don't bring the toys to my house, don't say my children must play with these toys, don't say my toys are not allowed by their toys. I'm not going to have any of that." [iChristopher Hitchens[/i