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| There were a few Warrington shirts around the town, 4 or 5 Saints shirts and a couple wearing Leeds shirts on Sunday, so not everyone wanted Cru's to fail!
Hopefully RL fans in North Wales get a team to support in future.
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| Quote ="Goochie"There were a few Warrington shirts around the town, 4 or 5 Saints shirts and a couple wearing Leeds shirts on Sunday, so not everyone wanted Cru's to fail!
Hopefully RL fans in North Wales get a team to support in future.'"
Nobody wanted them to fail , but what we want or don't want isn't relevant , good business practice and common sense is what will decide if any business succeeds or fails , that and a huge slice of luck
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| I have a couple of friends who are Cru fans, and I feel really gutted for them.
The only ones to blame in this saga are The RFL.
Celtic Crusaders weren't ready for Super League when the last franchise announcement was made, and unfortunetely, as with any business plan built on shifting sand, it was doomed to failure.
I hope they come back in the championship next season, but I've got a feeling that a merger with South Wales Scorpions may well be the only way forward, unless the loyal Cru fans of North Wales really, really WANT Rugby League, and are willing & able to watch it in the lower divisions for the next 3 years.
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| Quote ="Widneslatic"I have a couple of friends who are Cru fans, and I feel really gutted for them.
The only ones to blame in this saga are The RFL.
Celtic Crusaders weren't ready for Super League when the last franchise announcement was made, and unfortunetely, as with any business plan built on shifting sand, it was doomed to failure.
I hope they come back in the championship next season, but I've got a feeling that a merger with South Wales Scorpions may well be the only way forward, unless the loyal Cru fans of North Wales really, really WANT Rugby League, and are willing & able to watch it in the lower divisions for the next 3 years.'"
When the withdrawal was announced I was of the belief a merger with Scorpions would be the final outcome but after Wakefield and in particular Sundays game I think there is a real will to keep a side in North Wales and if Scorpions can survive on less than 400 gates then a new Cru who would be looking at least 3 times that in Championship and perhaps double in Championship 1 would surely be able to give it a go.
Of course the rent to play at the Racecourse would have an effect and if that can not be smoothed out possibly moving to somewhere like Rhyl would probably lose even more fans (though it would be better than a merger) but a Conference club playing out of Wrexham RUFC has to be the least of any ambitions and a team playing half their games in the north and half in the south does not sound appealing at all.
Never been to Wrexham RUFC but if they have facilities up to hosting Championship 1 rugby and a deal for the Racecourse can not be sorted out then that might be a starting option but to be honest it is all up in the air and if anyone will step up tho the plate and get in negotiations with the RFL, Uni and other parties time will tell.
I think the main thing is there must be a side for the fans to support next season at whatever level and once pledges of support have turned into real money through the gate it will be easier to see what sort of future the game has in North Wales from 2013 and beyond.
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| Which is exactly why it should be the RFL talking to the Uni right now , there isn't time to find another ' investor ' , the RFL should commit now to 3 more years of RL at Wrexham
In fact a club at Wrexham could become the model for future expansion of the game , close enough to encourage traveling support from other clubs , close enough to encourage the use of Dual Reg players initially
A spreading system rather than a satellite system
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| Quote ="Starbug"Which is exactly why it should be the RFL talking to the Uni right now , there isn't time to find another ' investor ' , the RFL should commit now to 3 more years of RL at Wrexham'"
If the ground work needs to be done by the RFL then passed on to some sort of Supporters Trust or a different owner then so be it, in some ways it would be better if it was Supporter lead rather than RFL lead but whoever does it it needs to happen ASAP if only so the divisional structure can be settled as soon as the Grand Finals are over so everyone knows where they stand throughout the game.
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| Quote ="littlerich"You have too high of an opinion of flatcappers. You really think a few comments on a tiny forum can influence people's decision to support/not support a club? Come om Smokey, you can do better than that. Time for one of your massive posts to pull this one out of the crapper.'"
Its not just a few comments on a tiny forum, it’s a huuuge amount of comments on the biggest RL forum. Do I think it is a sole reason for peoples decision making? No
Do I think its party of a pervasive attitude which could affect the image people hold of the game which will be part of their decision making process? Certainly
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Its not just a few comments on a tiny forum, it’s a huuuge amount of comments on the biggest RL forum. Do I think it is a sole reason for peoples decision making? No
Do I think its party of a pervasive attitude which could affect the image people hold of the game which will be part of their decision making process? Certainly'"
Doesn't "a huge amount of comments on the biggest RL forum" tell you something? Doesn't it explain how and why people feel as they do?
Think very carefully before you type, lest you make a bigger fool of yourself, bless
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| This video is not what RL is about. Disgusting. The away fans should be dishing the abuse out dealing with the home supporters.
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| Apparently there's going to be a news conference sometime tomorrow about the club's future - linky thingy on the Crusaders board (havn't put it in so that people will see that Starbug isn't the flatcapped iconclast that people think he is).
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| Quote ="The Chronicler of Chiswic"Apparently there's going to be a news conference sometime tomorrow about the club's future - linky thingy on the Crusaders board (havn't put it in so that people will see that Starbug isn't the flatcapped iconclast that people think he is).'"
If they shove them in the Championship with quota and parachute payment , I'll probably explode
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| Quote ="freddies wig"Doesn't "a huge amount of comments on the biggest RL forum" tell you something? Doesn't it explain how and why people feel as they do?
Think very carefully before you type, lest you make a bigger fool of yourself, bless'"
It certainly tells me what a small but very vocal minority of fans of a very small but very vocal minority of clubs think, Sweetheart
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"It certainly tells me what a small but very vocal minority of fans of a very small but very vocal minority of clubs =#FF0000think, Sweetheart'"
Yes we have ' mind control ' over the Welsh populace , we managed to convine all but a thousand or so not to go watching RL
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| Quote ="Starbug"icon_lol.gif
If they shove them in the Championship with quota and parachute payment , I'll probably explode
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I would hope any new club would take the Scorpions approach and go for mainly Welsh players and perhaps a few old heads from Manchester and Cheshire and certainly not be looking at importing players from the other side of the world.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Yes we have ' mind control ' over the Welsh populace , we managed to convine all but a thousand or so not to go watching RL
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wow thats a idiotic leap of logic, even for you and idiotic leaps of logic are what you are known for.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"wow thats a idiotic leap of logic, even for you and idiotic leaps of logic are what you are known for.'"
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"It certainly tells me what a small but very vocal minority of fans of a very small but very vocal minority of clubs think, Sweetheart'"
Oops, and to think I gave you the chance to think before typing. Oh well.
You continue to be a great advert for our education system. Bless you
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| Quote ="Starbug"It did go wrong , we didn't get any sympathy , we were just told the truth , our club wasn't good enough , the same applies to the Crusaders , their club isn't good enough , it isn't rocket surgery'"
It was a slippery slope after the generator failure on the opening night!
Rocket surgery?
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| Quote ="the exile"It was a slippery slope after the generator failure on the opening night!
Rocket surgery?'"
Well ' technically ' it didn't fail , it didn't work exactly when we wanted it to work , but by hook and crook ( and having a B and Q next door ) we did get it going
But it was Brain Science that got us through in the end
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| Quote ="Starbug"Well ' technically ' it didn't fail , it didn't work exactly when we wanted it to work , but by hook and crook ( and having a B and Q next door ) we did get it going
But it was Brain Science that got us through in the end
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LOL...once I saw the plumes of smoke belch out of the genartor I knew Superleague was ready for us! That was the filthiest night I've ever seen rugby played...alll credit to the players.
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| Quote ="The Chronicler of Chiswic"Apparently there's going to be a news conference sometime tomorrow about the club's future - linky thingy on the Crusaders board (havn't put it in so that people will see that Starbug isn't the flatcapped iconclast that people think he is).'"
Sounds like good news. I assume they wouldn't put on a press conference to announce that there won't be a club next season.
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| Press conference timed for 'around' 11.30 a.m.
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| Quote ="littlerich"You have too high of an opinion of flatcappers. You really think a few comments on a tiny forum can influence people's decision to support/not support a club? Come om Smokey, you can do better than that. Time for one of your massive posts to pull this one out of the crapper.'"
Please god no! i cant take a long winded odyssey into the world of semantic pedantry.
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| Channel 4 tonight 8pm.
[u Crusaders: Back from the dead.[/u
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