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| Memo to RFL, next year write six on the 6 ball. , get the BBC to have more cameras at the TV games and sort the refs out they are ruining the sport. That display today was embarrassing
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| Yeah those "draw ball" look nothing like the one posted on page 2
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That was hours ago. They've updated their status from "sad" to "melancholy" and now they're listening to The Smiths.
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That was hours ago. They've updated their status from "sad" to "melancholy" and now they're listening to The Smiths.
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"That was hours ago. They've updated their status from "sad" to "melancholy" and now they're listening to The Smiths.'" The cover-up is always worse than the crime. Did these idiots learn nothing from Watergate?!
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| Rfl in meltdown
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| Quote ="broadybull87"Yeah those "draw ball" look nothing like the one posted on page 2'"
Anybody else find it debatable that the RFL would have a printed out sheet of teams who had qualified only several minutes after Saints had edged to victory?
More likely scribbled down quickly with a bic?
But if they have a second set of balls like they seem to be in the twitter pic then why not use them? I fact why have a separate different looking second pair?
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| Use a Camelot lottery-machine. No ancient, flat-cappers pulling balls from a pi55-pot, just some hot piece pressing a button and Alan Dedicoat shouting out the last time Wigan drew Hunslet.
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| Quote ="Diablo1967"Use a Camelot lottery-machine. No ancient, flat-cappers pulling balls from a pi55-pot, just some hot piece pressing a button and Alan Dedicoat shouting out the last time Wigan drew Hunslet.'"
This post made me chuckle
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| Unless Nigel Wood has paid off the independent adjudicator, I think we can say with a good degree of certainty that this is another RL faux outrage.
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| Quote ="Ganson's Optician"Unless Nigel Wood has paid off the independent adjudicator, I think we can say with a good degree of certainty that this is another RL faux outrage.'"
I don't think that it was done deliberately in the first instance. But to post a picture of quite clearly different balls to 'prove' that the draw was correct is naive at worst and absolutely stupid at best.
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| Quote ="Ganson's Optician"Unless Nigel Wood has paid off the independent adjudicator, I think we can say with a good degree of certainty that this is another RL faux outrage.'"
Yep.
Does anyone really think Murphy or Schofield would ever in a million years collude with the RLF to give Wigan an easy draw??!
As for the 6/9 debate - does it really matter? Bradford or Widnes, same thing really.
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| Wait, if one had drawn a six and said it was a nine, wouldn't the nine hve been called out again?
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| rfl has changed their status from melancholy to ''outraged and angry''.
Looks like they are getting ready to hit back at critics.
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| Quote ="Mark_W"Wait, if one had drawn a six and said it was a nine, wouldn't the nine hve been called out again?'" That's what proves it's a conspiracy rather than a cock up
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| Quote ="Diablo1967"Use a Camelot lottery-machine. No ancient, flat-cappers pulling balls from a pi55-pot, just some hot piece pressing a button and Alan Dedicoat shouting out the last time Wigan drew Hunslet.'"
Just write the names on the balls.
I'm not one who goes in for the conspiracy theories at all. I think the draw is random, every time. The people who say it isn't always say its fixed no matter what the outcome. Teams kept apart? Fix. The RFL wanted them in the final. Teams drawn together? Fix. The RFL wanted a big game for the round.
I'd challenge these people to post their predictions for the draw before it happens rather than after.
What I think may have happened here is that they have made an honest mistake and rather than own up to it they have tried to pull the wool over people's eyes. The evidence is there. I'm prepared to believe that lighting creates different colours on the balls and angles etc but the evidence still suggests the balls are different. There is no big rectangular mark on the BBC clip under the 9.
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| Quote ="Mark_W"Wait, if one had drawn a six and said it was a nine, wouldn't the nine hve been called out again?'"
Now you know that kind of sensible thinking has no place on here. This is a lets blame the RFL for no reason thread. That way we can sleep soundly in the knowledge that ALL the sports' ills are the doing of the RFL and our own particular club is fantastic and amazing.
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| Quote ="Mark_W"Wait, if one had drawn a six and said it was a nine, wouldn't the nine hve been called out again?'"
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| The RFL will be issuing another press release about their integrity and professionalism. Coco the clown mentioned in despatches.
What a bunch of bloody idiots.
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"They're claiming on twitter there was no confusion, that they were right all along. And they have pictures to "prove" it. And the pictures show that the 9 had a line under it, but there was no line on the live pictures as people have confirmed with screen grabs. The balls don't even look the same.'"
Having seen the RFL's image, I revisited the screen grab overleaf. The front of the ball is not shown, what you in fact see is part of the number THROUGH the ball. The curve and composition of the ball cuts off the top of the number, it is not "flat" at all - you can't actually see the top so you can't actually see if there is or is not a flat. As I don't believe anyone has ever made a ball using a flat base as a differentiator rather than an underscore, I do not believe there is any issue as to the draw. It was an entirely avoidable farce, but was correctly called
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Having seen the RFL's image, I revisited the screen grab overleaf. The front of the ball is not shown, what you in fact see is part of the number THROUGH the ball. The curve and composition of the ball cuts off the top of the number, it is not "flat" at all - you can't actually see the top so you can't actually see if there is or is not a flat. As I don't believe anyone has ever made a ball using a flat base as a differentiator rather than an underscore, I do not believe there is any issue as to the draw. It was an entirely avoidable farce, but was correctly called'"
In that case if it was in deed a 9 then it would have been reversed surely? So through the ball the 9 would be represented backwards?
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Having seen the RFL's image, I revisited the screen grab overleaf. The front of the ball is not shown, what you in fact see is part of the number THROUGH the ball. The curve and composition of the ball cuts off the top of the number, it is not "flat" at all - you can't actually see the top so you can't actually see if there is or is not a flat. As I don't believe anyone has ever made a ball using a flat base as a differentiator rather than an underscore, I do not believe there is any issue as to the draw. It was an entirely avoidable farce, but was correctly called'"
It wasn't the flat base which made me believe otherwise. It was the big underscore they claimed was on the 9 in the repost when it wasn't there in the live picture. I think the curvature of the ball is enough to explain away the flatness of the number.
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| Not to mention the fact that there's a great big line going through the middle of the 9 on the picture the RFL posted which doesn't exist on the picture from the live draw.
They're not the same balls, that is evidently clear. Cock up rather than conspiracy but trying to cover it up by lying is deplorable from a professional organisation.
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| If they can get a set of balls made with numbers on, surely they can get them made with text on. It's a lot harder to get 'six' and 'nine' mixed up. Mankind sent a man to the moon in the 1960s.
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| Jimi Hendrix had a song " If six was nine" from the Axis Bold as Love album.FWIW
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