Video refs are essential and should be at all games imo. I just think on-field officials need to use them less and go with their instincts more because they're often correct. Also this "I've got a try"/"I've got no try" is pathetic and needs scrapping. The video ref should only be used if the ref hasn't actually got a clue.

I think slow motion ones are absolutely essential in some circumstances. But game-speed should always be considered too, not just a slow-mo on its own.

Impressed by the posters who believe that players should be allowed to break the rules and complain when the players do and are caught or not caught.

Seems more prevelant depending upon which team they follow



It's a bit like speeding on the roads. Everyone does it but then loads whinge when they caught, or say it's unfair that people /speed cameras are there to disuade them from speeding in the 1st place.

If you get away with it then don't blame the authorities for YOUR actions, but you then can't blame them if you do get caught. It's a risk/reward scenario and your choice.

People have to accept that people make mistakes and also great judgment calls and decisions in all walks of life. It's just the way it is.

I will back a match officials judgment reagrding the laws of the game over a players, coaches or fans judgment every time. Not because they will get it right everytime, but because their prime function is to apply the laws. Everyone else has a different prime function and they will make mistakes as well. It's human nature and will never change.

People are asking for perfection ( by their standards) where none can ever exist. It's impossible unless either machines that are programmed play the game or the game isn't played at all. Anything inbetween has to many variables. That is the hard part for people to accept.

why do we need a 2nd ref? just penalise the offenders until it is stopped!
and while we're at it, penalise players who not only move off the mark but move into the markers enabling a quick scoot.

Well, quite. Go back and apply video slo-mo to matches from the past, and half the tries every scored would be disallowed. VR operating at game speed is a great idea, I think. Can't see it ever happening, though. But what it would do is largely equalise decision-making on tries from other on-field decisions made by the officials on the pitch. At the moment, try-scoring situations are subject to extra scrutiny that midfield play isn't.

But it won't, it's human nature to stretch the laws to breaking point. See Hicks penalising Ellis & Koppy in the last 5 minutes. Something you seem to question.

things like that are always debatable, walking off the mark isn't

Start penalising every team for every misdemeanour, resulting in 54-37 penalty counts and the coaches and players should get the message how much they're antics spoil the game ....it will never happen but imagine if it did !

I can't believe people are now complaining about the correct call being given.

This thread should be bookmarked and framed for mind numbing stupidity.

Yes we need faster less accurate and effectively wrong calls.

Whilst the rest of the world is moving to the Internet of things web3.0. Rlfans want to turn off the TV.

Shall we roll back to weaving by hand and medical attention by the village wannabee too.

Let's have rugby at 300 aside whilst we are at it and games that go on for days with no ref at all.

other sports......

No they won't. Coaches like Wane & Anderson & muppets on here will ridicule referees not players.

And Powell, Cunningham, McDermott, Smith x2' Betts, Sheens, Radford and Chester (apologies if I forgot one).

Coaches will almost always deflect attention away from their players as they know how precious confidence is.

I've no issues with very high penalty counts providing the RFL stick with it until players and coaches get the message. In the past we've had various directives resulting in high penalty counts for the first few games of the season then it is all forgotten.

I have no problem with high penalty counts but coaches like Wane & Anderson & muppets on here will ridicule referees not players.

The point is while the calls against Ellis and koppy might have been the right calls, why were they given then when the same offences had been commited by both teams all night

Every time McGillvary hit the ball up Leeds should have been penalised for the very offence Ellis was

Thats what coaches and fans alike complain about

I’m not aware of any Leeds players shoulder-charging into the back of a restrained player.
The Ellis one is a more difficult one for me. I was brought up in the time when ball-stealing in the tackle was fair game. Consequently you were taught to respect possession far more & held onto the ball more carefully than players have to now. My immediate instinct now is that it is the ball-players responsibility to hold on & if the ref misses it, it’s tough, you should have been more careful. But if there is interference, & the ref penalises, you have no-one to blame but yourself.
However, with 5 minutes left the Hudds players should have been doubly careful not to give the ref any opportunity to blow up.

Yeah the real issue is the Shoulder charge, which was just plain dumb (though that only happens because of the Ellis penalty) and is just bloody typical of koppy

Though I won't ever not think Hardacre is a low down soccer grub for milking it for all he was worth, it might have been a penalty but that behaviour has no place in our game

interesting stuff in this weeks league express, Martyn Sadler thinks ablett and his ability to milk penalties s who Leeds fans should be thanking for the win, he's always been very good at that.

another contributor suggests that it was Huddersfield's sportsmanship for drawing attention to hardakers "injury" to have the game stopped, which the incident was then replayed on the screen and the penalty subsequently awarded, some cynics would suggest Hardaker had got over his injury by then



but i agree with C13, it's the fact that referees only penalise one team for the same offence that both teams are guilty of, which frustrates, i would be happy to see a 30-30 penalty count if it meant the game was officiated fairly for both teams.

Hardaker was injured. His legs were trapped by Broughs reckless scissors sliding tackle. He was limping after the game and on Saturday morning.

There is no way Hardaker would have known if it was a shoulder charge or legal tackle, given he had his back to him. Plus some are crediting Hardaker with the instantaneous nous to work out what the VR outcome would be.

Lets just get rid of match officials and let the crowd decide.

Seems to be the only way forward.

I have always found it strange that the players are never ever at fault no matter the scenario.

Leeds winning the Hub cap was down to Childs and Silverwood

because it can't be down to the players





I'll let some think about that.

That's pretty much how it happens at some SL grounds anyway.

Well you'd know!!!!

it's CHILD ( no S there's only one of them

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that could work, a bit like the old holiday camp contests where the winners were determined by how loud the audience cheered, only in RL it would be how loud the crowd boo'd and whined and in some clubs cases, how much abuse and swearing they could muster

Despite their best efforts it's singularly failed at Wakey.

Ablett is doing nothing new. I remember Fielden at Bradford doing exactly the same thing.