i reckon england could do ok if they play all the huddersfield and wigan players and tell them to ignore everything mcnamara says and just play like they do for their clubsides

Maybe he will.
I do not to profess to know where his passion lies.

It makes me laugh how English people are offended that Australian born people that play for another country to try and promote the International game and are condemned along with the whole population of Australia.

Then they say why is that Pacific Islander player representing Australia even though he is born in Australia say Jarryd Hayne.

Then something like this crops up where an Australian born citizen plays for a Cultural team to try and give a touring English team a solid match rather than "Wales" and the Aussies are a bunch of C**** again for having Tahu play for the Maori.

Hard to please some it seems

It would be easier to take IF England provided 30 or so first class players to other nations.

he's only playing for the maori side cos his dad had maori heritage.......


promoting the international game

I know that, I have already covered this elsewhere on this forum.
I can not work out your Icon?

In answer to your other post as to will Tahu play better for the Maori than NSW or OZ? I don't know mate.
I suspect if he is a traditionalist he will have no love of England from either Parent.
He is a better Centre than England has had in several decades.

If you think that Tahu is a better centre than Paul Newlove was then your knowledge of rugby league is very limited

Quote ="Dunbar"If you think that Tahu is a better centre than Paul Newlove was then your knowledge of rugby league is very limited'" Its better than yours Dunbar. Are 4 Tries against Australia in 10 Tests some kind of record? Tahu has a record of 5 in 5 against a better opposition. According to the English site Newlove is www.englandrl.co.uk/internationa ... submit.y=8

Quote ="Dunbar"If you think that Tahu is a better centre than Paul Newlove was then your knowledge of rugby league is very limited'" Its better than yours Dunbar. Are 4 Tries against Australia in 10 Tests some kind of record? Tahu has a record of 5 in 5 against a better opposition. According to the English site Newlove is www.englandrl.co.uk/internationa ... submit.y=8

Quote ="Jonesy"Its better than yours Dunbar. Are 4 Tries against Australia in 10 Tests some kind of record? Tahu has a record of 5 in 5 against a better opposition. According to the English site Newlove is www.englandrl.co.uk/internationa ... submit.y=8'" Paul Newlove is the finest English centre of his generation and constantly caused the Kangaroos problems when he played against them He had all the attributes of a top class centre - size, pace and very good hands If it weren't for his fear of flying, he may well have played more in the Southern Hemisphere and you would have seen more of him In the time I have been watching rugby league, the finest centres I have seen play are Mal Menninga, Gene Miles, Greg Inglis and Paul Newlove - Tahu is a quality player but he is not in this class All of this is subjective of course, but despite your assertion that you know more about rugby league than me, I trust my judgement

Quote ="Jonesy"Its better than yours Dunbar. Are 4 Tries against Australia in 10 Tests some kind of record? Tahu has a record of 5 in 5 against a better opposition. According to the English site Newlove is www.englandrl.co.uk/internationa ... submit.y=8'" Paul Newlove is the finest English centre of his generation and constantly caused the Kangaroos problems when he played against them He had all the attributes of a top class centre - size, pace and very good hands If it weren't for his fear of flying, he may well have played more in the Southern Hemisphere and you would have seen more of him In the time I have been watching rugby league, the finest centres I have seen play are Mal Menninga, Gene Miles, Greg Inglis and Paul Newlove - Tahu is a quality player but he is not in this class All of this is subjective of course, but despite your assertion that you know more about rugby league than me, I trust my judgement

Your opinion is yours to hold.

Have a great Day

I agree. How Tony Clubb has been picked over Martin Gleeson is simply staggering.

Fully fit, strongest England side for me would be:

1. Sam Tomkins
2. Darrell Goulding
3. Martin Gleeson
4. Chris Bridge
5. Ryan Hall
6. Leon Pryce
7. Kyle Eastmond
8. James Graham
9. Kevin Sinfield
10. Jamie Peacock
11. Sam Burgess
12. Gareth Ellis
13. Sean O'loughlin

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14. Adrian Morley
15. Stuart Fielden
16. James Roby
17. Joel Tomkins

While Paul Newlove was a good centre, Gary Connelly was the best Great Britain centre I've seen

That's a strong side

Personally, I think that Tom Briscoe is a far better right winger than Goulding

I hope that the next 6 weeks will show that in Widdop and Tomkins we have two players who are equally capable at 1 and 6 - and will be two first choice English players for years to come

Finally, I am not 100% sure about Sinfield at 9. I would rather go in with two regular hookers and interchange them - at the start of the year I would have said Roby and Lunt but Lunt has played a lot of second row this year so I will be interested to see where McNamara plays him in this tournament

When's the game? Does anyone know when the Somoa-NZ one is aswell?

Which game? NZ Maouri is next Saturday morning.

The samoa games the first week of the 4 nations as a warm up to Aus v PNG didnt someone say?

Nice one, is it being televised?

If you mean the England v Maoris yeah about 5.00am.

BBC or sky, do you know? Think its going to have to be one for the recording system!

It's on SKY. 5.30am kick off. Sky+ for me.

Our PNG game is a 6am kick off however against the Aussies is a 10am kick off!

With most of the names being chucked around i wonder where the kicking game is going to come from. I remember how terrible the Burrow/Pryce combo was and how bad their kicking game was. Eastmond is eye catching and very lively but he has no kicking game. Being honest i think he would make a brilliant winger. But where is Eastmonds all roung HB skills.

i think eastmond has developed massively since Longs departure, he's had to.
Hes not on the plane anyway so an irrelevance

I still think Eastmond has a long way to go to develop into a proper ALLROUND half that GB still cant produce. He still looks like a running/support style 7 like loads in SL do. Where is the organiser that we are yearning for IMO?

BBC, yea right



Sky sports 2, 5am i believe

and the BBC have england v NZ and australia v png live..... ya burke

Its a shame Dobson doesn't qualify on residency grounds:

1. Tomkins

6. Eastmond
7. Dobson