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| Quote ="TheWarringtonWolve69"lol ok m8'"
Seems like a mature response.
There are posters who want this latest incarnation terminated. It's even been suggested on this thread.
I can see why.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I see the obligitory ban for a Saints player has been used again. It's so consistent they could probably base the interest rates on it.'"
Maybe they get banned because they are guilty of foul play,I know its a radical thought but there you go.
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| Quote ="Jason65"Maybe they get banned because they are guilty of foul play,I know its a radical thought but there you go.'"
Indeed. But we get away with absolutely nothing. For example, Farrell's high shot in the derby. Penalty, no ban, I agree with that. If that's a Saints player, he's banned for two weeks. The consistency issue is still there and possibly worse than ever now they are throwing bans out like Grandma's send Christmas cards.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I see the obligitory ban for a Saints player has been used again. It's so consistent they could probably base the interest rates on it.'"
And there you have the key- consistent.
Consistent foul play. Consistent bans. Seems fair enough.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Indeed. But we get away with absolutely nothing. For example, Farrell's high shot in the derby. Penalty, no ban, I agree with that. If that's a Saints player, he's banned for two weeks. The consistency issue is still there and possibly worse than ever now they are throwing bans out like Grandma's send Christmas cards.'"
Well he didnt get banned so deemed not worthy of a ban how do you know if it was a Saints player he would get banned you just dont know !.
At the min Saints are the dirtiest team in the league looking at the bans and penalties against that is all,unless another team has more then it would be them.
As you get away with nothing ,only if you exclude 2 blatant strips (one a try) and a couple of forward passes thrown in as well.
Before you lose you mind and start telling everyone of how Wigan get away with more or indeed any other team ,dont bother we are not interested.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I see the obligitory ban for a Saints player has been used again. It's so consistent they could probably base the interest rates on it.'"
I think the problem is that we play at a level similar to the NRL with toughness and aggression. I remember Sironen saying something similar making it easy to blend into the team. That’s probably why Sironen gets so many bans because his NRL tackling technique hasn’t needed to change.
Woolf will have to adjust his defensive model to align with the disciplinary tolerance, it appears we do still have some parity issues with opposition players not being disciplined in the same manner but it’s up to the club to raise evidence and ask questions with the RFL.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Indeed. But we get away with absolutely nothing. For example, Farrell's high shot in the derby. Penalty, no ban, I agree with that. If that's a Saints player, he's banned for two weeks. The consistency issue is still there and possibly worse than ever now they are throwing bans out like Grandma's send Christmas cards.'"
another Saints player banned,must be a mistake.
some other players banned would like to point out the consistency issue.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Indeed. But we get away with absolutely nothing. For example, Farrell's high shot in the derby. Penalty, no ban, I agree with that. If that's a Saints player, he's banned for two weeks. The consistency issue is still there and possibly worse than ever now they are throwing bans out like Grandma's send Christmas cards.'"
Saddened, we've covered that on RedVee and analysed it. Farrell initial contact was high up on the chest and Knowles head went back into Bell causing whiplash, split second later Farrells shoulder and arm raised up into the face of Knowles. Disciplinary looked at the first point of impact-upper chest and not recorded the incident.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Saddened, we've covered that on RedVee and analysed it. Farrell initial contact was high up on the chest and Knowles head went back into Bell causing whiplash, split second later Farrells shoulder and arm raised up into the face of Knowles. Disciplinary looked at the first point of impact-upper chest and not recorded the incident.'"
I'm not talking about when Knowles got injured, I'm talking about the high shot on their own line.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I'm not talking about when Knowles got injured, I'm talking about the high shot on their own line.'"
Right OK, I don't remember that one.
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| Another mandatory two week ban for a Saints player. To be fair they've done well the panel, they only had two senior players that would play to pick from, so good going with that. They really are going frame by frame to find anything and everything they can in this crackdown on St Helens.
Huddersfield seem to have had 3 banned, having watched their game I don't remember them tackling anyone the game was that open.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Another mandatory two week ban for a Saints player. To be fair they've done well the panel, they only had two senior players that would play to pick from, so good going with that. They really are going frame by frame to find anything and everything they can in this crackdown on St Helens.
Huddersfield seem to have had 3 banned, having watched their game I don't remember them tackling anyone the game was that open.'"
maybe it is because they are the dirtiest team in the league at the min..
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| Quote ="Jason65"maybe it is because they are the dirtiest team in the league at the min..
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Definitely, bunch of absolute thugs. We're on about 40 games worth of bans and we've not put a bad challenge in all season. When we do they're going to be sent to Guantanamo Bay for punishment.
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| Quote ="Jason65"maybe it is because they are the dirtiest team in the league at the min..
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Thats not quite correct that accolade belongs to the Catalans at the moment, top the league for penalties and red cards 74 and 3 respectively, 3rd position for yellow cards at the moment.
Saints are catching up fast though, there aggressive defence not liked by the disciplinary lately. We don't have anything Powell esque standard though. In comparison our Sironen is like a petty house burglar whilst Powell is like an armed bank robber.
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| Quote ="Jason65"maybe it is because they are the dirtiest team in the league at the min..
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ironically the last two match reviews Hudds didnt have a single player even mentioned. making up for lost time clearly
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Definitely, bunch of absolute thugs. We're on about 40 games worth of bans and we've not put a bad challenge in all season. When we do they're going to be sent to Guantanamo Bay for punishment.'"
Yes, Sironen's technique has been perfect all season...
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Thats not quite correct that accolade belongs to the Catalans at the moment, top the league for penalties and red cards 74 and 3 respectively, 3rd position for yellow cards at the moment.
Saints are catching up fast though, there aggressive defence not liked by the disciplinary lately. We don't have anything Powell esque standard though. In comparison our Sironen is like a petty house burglar whilst Powell is like an armed bank robber.'"
Thanks for checking, so you you are the second dirtiest team.
Didnt Hurrell get done for crusher not Powell esque but still a crusher,its a matter of time
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| Quote ="Jason65"Thanks for checking, so you you are the second dirtiest team.
Didnt Hurrell get done for crusher not Powell esque but still a crusher,its a matter of time'"
Yes Hurrell did get done for a crusher but was aided by Farrell adding to it, but disciplinary didn’t take that into account and got 2 games.
In the Wigan v Salford game Gerrard did an identical crusher on one of the Wigoons lads, disciplinary put it on a charge but got off with a caution……..very strange that.
Saints are not the second dirtiest team by the way, do you want to have one more go.
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| Back to Wigoon are we Stain man,
Would I want to have another go ,I have only gone off what you have put down,do you want to change your mind.
If you said Stains are the 3rd in the table regarding foul play I would go off what you said as I believe you as you would work it all out and I cant be d.
Funny how Farrell was part of the Hurrell foul play and disciplinary didnt take it in to account.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Thats not quite correct that accolade belongs to the Catalans at the moment, top the league for penalties and red cards 74 and 3 respectively, 3rd position for yellow cards at the moment.
Saints are catching up fast though, there aggressive defence not liked by the disciplinary lately. We don't have anything Powell esque standard though. In comparison our Sironen is like a petty house burglar whilst Powell is like an armed bank robber.'"
Apologise missed that you are 3rd on the worst offenders list,but there you go.
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| 10 mins in the bin for kicking the ball in to the crowd but not for a off the ball tackle or two tip tackles
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| Quote ="thesaint62"10 mins in the bin for kicking the ball in to the crowd but not for a off the ball tackle or two tip tackles'"
Kendall was a disgrace, got loads of things wrong, probably his worst performance of the year. Welsby hoofed the ball away into an empty part of the East stand as he was crashing into the hoardings, later in the game Salfords Escare threw the ball at Saints fans in a packed West stand. Welsby yellow card, Escare nothing said.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Kendall was a disgrace, got loads of things wrong, probably his worst performance of the year. Welsby hoofed the ball away into an empty part of the East stand as he was crashing into the hoardings, later in the game Salfords Escare threw the ball at Saints fans in a packed West stand. Welsby yellow card, Escare nothing said.'"
Woaa.
Welsby got binned for kicking the ball away which prevented a quick restart.
Escare threw the ball into the crowd after he had scored. Completely different scenarios, and you know it.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Woaa.
Welsby got binned for kicking the ball away which prevented a quick restart.
Escare threw the ball into the crowd after he had scored. Completely different scenarios, and you know it.
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Certainly is, Welsby’s kick ball just hit the empty steps, Escares aggressive throw could have hit a child in a packed stand.
Welsby delayed the restart by about 15 seconds, ball boy just issued another ball, ref didn’t give the benefit of the doubt that Welsby had a mitigated circumstance kicking the ball away less than a second away before crashing into the hoardings.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Kendall was a disgrace, got loads of things wrong, probably his worst performance of the year. Welsby hoofed the ball away into an empty part of the East stand as he was crashing into the hoardings, later in the game Salfords Escare threw the ball at Saints fans in a packed West stand. Welsby yellow card, Escare nothing said.'"
I've no problem with the Saints sin binings it's the fact Salford got away with far worse
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