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| Whilst Widnes isn't a million miles away, if it stops him hanging about with bad influences, he may do better off-field.
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| people like chase soon find other bad influences
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"My thoughts exactly.
I don't understand how going to Widnes is going to help in any way, shape or form. It's not a fresh start, it's not pastures new, it's not turning over a new leaf. '"
I don't think it will help him either, if anything I think it could affect him even more towards the business end of the season - while his ex Cas team mates are, fingers crossed, playing some huge games aiming to reach Old Trafford, he'll be playing Featherstone and Halifax (no disrespect of course).
Oh well, best of luck to him.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"He is a Leigh fan, you know. You have to make allowances for that.'"
Coming from Carcassonne, what suddenly makes you an expert on Leigh fans?
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| Quote ="Towns88"And you know for a fact Chase doesn't have a mental health issue ? An earlier posted said they thought chase had a colourful upbringing well that's a bloody understatement. I think he does have problems but sadly he doesn't help himself. And if you aren't prepared to help yourself there's only so much those around you can do.'"
No he doesn't know for a fact he hasn't got mental health issues, but then again neither do you know for a fact that he has.
It's funny though that the only time rancid's mental health issues come up for discussion is when he disgraces himself in the public eye with his inexcusable attempt's at causing bother at different social gatherings, which is unfortunately far too often.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"people like chase soon find other bad influences'"
Or find other people to badly influence.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"He is a Leigh fan, you know. You have to make allowances for that.'"
And you wonder why people on here think your an obnoxious idiot.
Maybe you should be screened for some mental illness, I'm sure they will find something
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| Quote ="Willzay"Going to repeat myself here but Wakefield sacked Tim Smith on the spot for drunk driving and he actually does have a mental health condition. ATOETD Atomic is right, Chase is an idiot with an attitude problem a bit like Scott Moore, Rich Owen, Kevin Locke.'"
The issue is Tim Smith, while drunk driving, crashed his vehicle into a civilian's house in broad daylight and got charged for it. Chase has been involved in tiffs in Pontefract and Featherstone and as far as I'm aware that's it - in the first instance he was started on by well-known thugs who have taken issue with him, and the second is under review. Not comparable situations at all.
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| Suppose it comes down to understanding whether a mental health issue is the reason for making poor life choices, or just being used as a convenient excuse to avoid taking personal responsibility for chosen actions.
I am making no judgements either way.
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| Quote ="Adam_Harrison9"2 questions:
A) do you have any case notes/doctor notes or information about Rangi Chase as an individual
B) Do you have any medical qualification in the mental health area? P.S the liberal bit was particularly cringey.
If none of the above, do think before speaking.'"
it's my opinion based on MY experience, if you don't like it, tough. I don't need any notes to voice an opinion and it be valid thanks.
Presume you have (his mental health notes, if any) to counter my stance, thought not!
As for your not liking my liberal comment, indulge me with some semblance as to why.
Frankly why you even bothered replying with such a pi$$ weak response is anyone's guess.
Do think before writing such a patheticly weak response!
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| Quote ="BD"The issue is Tim Smith, while drunk driving, crashed his vehicle into a civilian's house in broad daylight and got charged for it. Chase has been involved in tiffs in Pontefract and Featherstone and as far as I'm aware that's it - in the first instance he was started on by well-known thugs who have taken issue with him, and the second is under review. Not comparable situations at all.'"
As far as your aware eh, that means your guessing then, without trivialising Smith's incident he drove his car into a wall not a house, maybe you should have also added as far as I'm aware.
Clearly poor old rangi is a victim in all this according to you, Smith gets drunk and drives a car Chase gets drunk and causes trouble both unacceptable but Wilzay's not trying to defend Smith, don't suppose you have any comment to make about the incident with Chase a few years back in the Escape.
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| Quote ="dickie mint"As far as your aware eh, that means your guessing then, without trivialising Smith's incident he drove his car into a wall not a house, maybe you should have also added as far as I'm aware.
Clearly poor old rangi is a victim in all this according to you, Smith gets drunk and drives a car Chase gets drunk and causes trouble both unacceptable but Wilzay's not trying to defend Smith, don't suppose you have any comment to make about the incident with Chase a few years back in the Escape.'"
My mistake, a wall and two cars and mounted a residential pavement, not a house - silly me, much better. I'm not saying he's a victim, of course he's an idiot who gets himself into bad situations, but one of these players was charged with a serious endangering crime and one wasn't. Therefore little comparison.
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| Rangi has spoken openly about his mental health issues.
I hope playing regularly and moving away from the area will help him.
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| Quote ="BD"The issue is Tim Smith, while drunk driving, crashed his vehicle into a civilian's house in broad daylight and got charged for it. Chase has been involved in tiffs in Pontefract and Featherstone and as far as I'm aware that's it - in the first instance he was started on by well-known thugs who have taken issue with him, and the second is under review. Not comparable situations at all.'"
My point is no one blamed Smith's bi polar for his reckless idiotic actions. Why is Chase any different. The guy goes to a rival teams ground and starts a fight with a fan. How is that not anything but stupidity.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Rangi has spoken openly about his mental health issues.
I hope playing regularly and moving away from the area will help him.'"
Good luck with that one, remind me how did it pan out last time moving to Salford/Leigh ?
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| Rangi's finished in League now. He obviously has issues and it's a sad decline for someone who had all the talent in the world.
At 31, he should do a KP and put himself up for the Union 7's circuit. Not sure what money is union 7's but KP is basically a freelance T20 Cricket player these days, travelling the world and playing in the domestic T20 comps. Rangi could get a good couple of years out of the 7's circuit and it suits his game to a tee.
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| Quote ="Willzay"My point is no one blamed Smith's bi polar for his reckless idiotic actions. Why is Chase any different. The guy goes to a rival teams ground and starts a fight with a fan. How is that not anything but stupidity.'"
Rangi (and anyone else) should be free to go and watch a game of rugby. That's not the issue here. The issue is that he was extremely drunk.
Interestingly, my understanding is that Rangi was punched a number of times before he retaliated and prior to this, although drunk, he was not aggressive or trying to 'start a fight'.
His stupidity was getting drunk, but this is often the symptom of a person's mental health difficulties.
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| Quote ="Salford red all over"Good luck with that one, remind me how did it pan out last time moving to Salford/Leigh ?
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I wonder how things may have turned out differently had he not left Castleford. The move to Salford put his family life under strain as he moved away from his wife and child and also removed him from a close support network (both personally and professionally) and he eventually split from his wife. He only rejoined Cas after getting back together with his wife and seemed to be back on track and content again. He's only gone off the rails once more now he has split with her again.
I suppose my point here is that there is more to a rugby player's life than rugby. In Rangi's case, he seems to need his family (wife and children) to keep him focused and in control of his mental health. Once he doesn't have this, he struggles and it leads to the kind of bad decision making that lands him in bother.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Rangi (and anyone else) should be free to go and watch a game of rugby. That's not the issue here. The issue is that he was extremely drunk.
Interestingly, my understanding is that Rangi was punched a number of times before he retaliated and prior to this, although drunk, he was not aggressive or trying to 'start a fight'.
His stupidity was getting drunk, but this is often the symptom of a person's mental health difficulties.'"
Not like rangi not to get the first one in, that's probably because the bloke didn't have his back to him.
Aye it's a bit stupid getting drunk, I can't imagine anybody in their right mind doing that.
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| Quote ="dickie mint". Aye it's a bit stupid getting drunk, I can't imagine anybody in their right mind doing that.'"
Exactly. Drunken behaviour leads to bad decision-making. If he hadn't been drinking, he probably wouldn't have gone to the Featherstone game.
I have sat alongside many players from other clubs at Cas matches. Not once have any of them been drunk.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Exactly. Drunken behaviour leads to bad decision-making. If he hadn't been drinking, he probably wouldn't have gone to the Featherstone game.'"
So it's just down to him being drunk then, whose faults that then the landlords' what served him.
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| Quote ="dickie mint"So it's just down to him being drunk then, whose faults that then the landlords' what served him.'"
Sometimes it is nobody's fault.
Chase has mental health issues. Unfortunately these make it difficult for him to make rational decisions.
It's an illness, not something he chooses to suffer from.
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| Mental health and idiocy argument to a side the biggest thing about chase seems to be where ever he plays the teams struggle, regardless of how good he was at Cas 1st time around they were dwelling at the bottom of the table and favourites for the drop the year he left. Suddenly he was gone and Cas haven't looked back.
Salford were pretty dire with Chase, Leigh looked a better side without him, can't be all a coincidence
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| Quote ="barham red"Mental health and idiocy argument to a side the biggest thing about chase seems to be where ever he plays the teams struggle, regardless of how good he was at Cas 1st time around they were dwelling at the bottom of the table and favourites for the drop the year he left. Suddenly he was gone and Cas haven't looked back.
Salford were pretty dire with Chase, Leigh looked a better side without him, can't be all a coincidence'"
So how do you explain Cas this season then?
Granted, they've played much better with Roberts on the pitch than Chase, but they've hardly been bad.
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| Bulb short of a chandelier but he needs the love. It's all well & good mourning big Tez and going on about the so called RL family after he departed. Some right s on here.
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