I'd agree overall, however, toe-to-toe ('96-'03) I'd say there was very little in it.

Cunningham can't spin pass to his right, that should be the minimum requirement for a number nine.

If he would have gone for a trial at Melbourne, Bellamy would have said thanks but no thanks. Would prefer to have Ryan Hinchcliffe as my No.9. Cunningham is highly overrated.

1. Kris Radlinski
2. Ryan Hall
3. Jamie Lyon
4. Shontayne Hape
5. Lesley Vainikolo
6. Iestyn Harris
7. Sean Long
8. James Graham
9. Keiron Cunningham
10. Stuart Fielden
11. Jamie Peacock
12. Andrew Farrell
13. Paul Sculthorpe

No place for Michael Withers?

Haha. Overrated by 99% of players, fans,coaches and pundits who consistently rated him as one of the best hookers in the world and one of the best all-time SL players? You are literally the only person I have ever known to say he is overrated.

The more I read of your posts, the more I have to question how much you know/understand about the game.

Jack Reed has excellent hands - his problem is lack of speed. Check out the tries he set up for Josh Hofman last year for proof.

Sam Tomkins

Lesley Vainikolo
Keith Senior
George Carmont
Pat Richards
Trent Barrett
Sean Long
Adrian Morley
Shane Millard
Jamie Peacock
Sean O'Loughlin
Sam Burgess
Andy Farrell

Put Millard in there because i couldn't bring myself to name the fat bar-steward from St Helens.

I agree about Senior to a certain extent but you have players in here that you are rating for their rugby outside Super League.
E.g. Martin Offiah playing for London was not good enough for this team.
Same with Sam Burgess. He plays his outstanding rugby abroad, not in Super League.

1. Tomkins
2. Robinson
3. Carmont
4. Lyon
5. Vainokolo
6. Barrett
7. Long
8. Peacock
9. Cunningham
10. Graham
11. Burgess
12. Sculthorpe
13. Farrell

1. Kris Radlinski
2. Lesley Vainikolo
3. Jamie Lyon
4. Gary Connolly
5. Ryan Hall
6. Trent Barrett
7. Sean Long
8. James Graham
9. Keiron Cunningham
10. Jamie Peacock
11. Adrian Morley
12. Andy Farrell
13. Paul Sculthorpe

Very difficult, there are plenty to choose from.

Andrew Johns played a couple of games for Warrington. He was the greatest half back who ever lived. How can he not be in the team?

Keith Senior is only famous for boffing a cougar (an elderly woman) groupie who was not his wife, while on tour in Australia. He may he have been good at boffing. But as far as rugby league goes Lyon, Gidley, Newlove and Renouf were far superior.

1 Tomkins
2 Robinson
3 Lyon
4 Senior
5 Vainikolo
6 Barrett
7 Long
8 Graham
9 Cunningham
10 Peacock
11 Farrell
12 Menzies
13 Sculthorpe

He is remembered also for owning Barry-Jon Mather, although that wasn't SL it was the CC.

Yeah totally crazy that the most decorated full back in SL history, a MOS, Harry Sunderland and 2 Lance Todd trophies to go with the 15 trophies he lifted at Saints could be considered as the best full back of the SL era



On his day, Wello was a class player who could read a game better than anybody else I have seen - great under high ball, very good defensively and a good try scorer. His ability to read a game meant his lack of pace was rarely an issue and for that I think he could be classed as good as any other #1 that has played SL...was a tough call between him and Radlinski tbh as I rated them both very highly but dont find it that crazy he is up there at all

''greatest half back who ever lived'' - He was good but no that good. He played a handful of games so should not be considered.

Harris
Big Les
Senior
Lyon
Hall
Sinfield
Long
Peacock
Roby
Graham
Lauitiiti
Sculthorpe
Farrell

Fieldon
Graham
Barry Mac
Burrow(only there because I think he would run an absolute riot behind that huge pack of monsters and I think id really enjoy watching it)

He’s also remembered for more than 500 appearances, more than 200 tries, 2 challenge cup wins, being part of 5 grand final winning squads, winning 2 WCC, 43 international caps and 15 year career at the top of Rugby League.

Firstly, Andrew Johns got his d kicked by Hull in what his 3rd game, 2 game show pony who bottled it completely against a very good Hull side (but not outstanding)

1. Kris Radlinski
2. Lesley Vainikolo
3. Jamie Lyon
4. Keith Senior
5. Gareth Raynor
6. Trent Barrett
7. Sean Long
8. James Graham
9. Richard Swain
10. Jamie Peacock
11. Adrian Morley
12. Andy Farrell
13. Paul Sculthorpe

I saw that try, and thought the same, but it's some Broncos fans who have watched him far more than any of us who are saying it, they don't seem to think he'll be in the centre for the Broncos for long, but with the 2nd row and centre being so interchangeable it doesn't really matter; as with Kenny-Dowall and Sonny Bill.

1. Radlinski/Wellens

2. Robinson
3. Lyon
4. Senior
5. Vainikolo

6. McGuire
7. Long

8. Fielden
9. Cunningham/Lowes
10. Peacock

11. Morley
12. Sculthorpe
13. Farrell/Sinfield

14. Clinch
15. Vowles
16. Barrie McDermott
17. James Graham

Very quickly, off the top of my head.

I think I would have to put Jason smith in there, pure class at FC

I think I would have to put Jason smith in there, pure class at FC

Wellens
Robinson
Lyon
Newlove
Volcano
Barrett
Long
Peacock (best rugby as prop IMO)
Cunningham
Farrell (was world class when he played prop)
Joynt
SOL
Scully

Gone for players that where in top of their game whilst in super league.
Gidley as good as he was was past his best.
Burgess improved in the NRL.
Few great props left out.
Graham, fairleigh, fielden but Andy Farrell I remember had to play prop because of injuries and was pure class.
Tomkins may well become a better full back but Wello at his best was outstanding.
You can find clips of old games when the big 4 ruled the super league. The good old days.
You forget just how good Wellens was.
Sol obviously is a 13 but I just couldn't leave him out and no one is moving Scully from that 13 spot.
Off the top of my head I couldn't think of anyone better than joint for 11.

2 trains of thought for this. The best players that have played in super league and the players that have played the best in super league.

On the first point id go for
Mullins
Offiah
Lyon
Renouf
Volcano
Barrett
Johns
Burgess
Swain
Mark Carrol
Menzies
Clyde
Jason Smith

Cunningham
Morley
Langer
Gee

On the second point

Radlinski
Albert
Lyon
Hape
Volcano
Henry Paul
Long
OConnor
Cunningham
Fielden
Peacock
Farrell
Scullthorpe

Lowes
Morley
Anderson
Sinfield

1. Sam Tomkins
2. Leslie Vainikolo
3. Jamie Lyon
4. Keith Senior
5. Ryan Hall
6. Iestyn Harris
7. Sean Long
8. Adrian Morley
9. Keiron Cunningham
10. Jamie Peacock
11. Ali Lauitiiti
12. Sam Burgess
13. Andy Farrell

14. James Roby
15. James Graham
16. Stuart Fielden
17. Gareth Ellis