English citizens I said

But you don't have to be. You just have to comply with the three year residency rule. He does, he qualifies. If you are still against him playing for England, then it can only be down to miss-placed idealism. That is not something you can run international sport on, as all of our individual ideals are different.

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Not in response to the saying he's some sort of role model to the likes of refugee's.

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Not fo a week but interview 2 months back was talking about playing for NZ!



Racism is based on hate / prejudice for being a particular race, hardly the same. This is the England national team FFS.

What are you talking about you utter spoon!?













So, everyone who ever migrates to this country is fleeing war??

Doesn't the fact he is being treated as some sort of 'signing' show what's wrong with the international system though?

I'm struggling with your 'role model to migrants' comment?
He's come over playing the sport he loves and us doing great at it yes but it's a bit different to someone in need of a role model to search for a better life.

Or you want a role model to say of not playing international RL for your chosen nation head to SL and play for England in 3 seasons?

Racism no. But I think Xenophobia might be kicking in for some. It is a pretty irrational fear not to want Rangi to play even though he qualifies under the rules as English and he wants to play.

xen·o·phobe (zn-fb, zn-)
n.
A person unduly fearful or contemptuous of that which is foreign, especially of strangers or foreign peoples

I think it would be more racist, if you didn't want, for instance - a black player playing for England [iregardless[/i of his nationality.

Its looks like you're struggling with the English language as well. What are you trying to say?

So i'm racist because i want to ENGLISH players representing ENGLAND.

Do you even know what racism means?? I have many friends from other backgrounds, so in what way am i racist you utter fool. I find it incredibly infuriating the way people like you throw the race card around. You have no idea what racism, suggest you speak to someone who has generally suffered racist abuse and see the difference. Am i racist for wanting my country to win the four nations and smash the Aussies? Suppose everyones racist supporting their country at sporting events. Can't leave the other nations out can we. Are the RFL racist too for having an overseas quotea, afterall, an Aussie RL player who wants to work in this country can't do so because of the quota.

I support England, not a super league dream team made up of Aussies & Kiwis. Fans want England to win (that are full of Aussie & Kiwis) i just don't understand to be honest.

Sorry for the blatant troll, but that is the first defence of a racist.

Well that would certainly make it a clear cut case. But racism is racism, no matter what form it takes.

Not too sure what your point is here? Are you saying, because it seems to be less racist, it's OK?

i couldn't be less bothered about this if you paid me.

If you are going on what I have written, not necessarily. Stop trying to make yourself into a victim, in order to give you an excuse to whinge like feck

No it's just not racist in anyway shape or form.

Are you speaking for yourself or everyone?

Given what proof?

And surely racism is more along the lines of not wanting (for e.g.) Michael Lawrence to play for England? Quick someone write an essay in the Wembley match programme: Postmodern relativism and the construct of nation and identity.

I'm saying it is understandable (and not strictly that "bad"icon_wink.gif that someone may take the view that inclusiveness to the degree of pandering to someone's subjective identity should overturn what is empirical about where someone is actually from.

I did say it was a blatant troll yet you couldn't help bite. Good work!!

But since you asked:

Roy Chubby Brown: 'I've got loads of black friends'

Press releases made mention of Galliano's jewish friends.

Mel Gibson managed to get Whoopi Goldberg to say it for him

Ron Atkinson said words to that effect.

You want me to go on?

Certainly not anything I've seen on here.

Tbh were all kind of just hitting the same arguments again



Personally at least I just think it's embarrasing that after all talk of franchise system to develop and bring through British youth through academy to international (a few lads are ready now) that we've still gone asking numerous players to switch main allegiance for us.

While taking an idealistic view, yes. That view could be held for may reasons, including racism. I have never said that any poster on here has taken a racist view. This is something the brainless on here have failed to see, for some reason. Probably because they just want a little rant, maybe.

That's okay. You did most of the research.

There you go. We're on the same page at last



It's up to clubs to develop youngsters for the international team that are good enough to compete with the best. as yet, they are failing. Until we get it right, I'd take RC any day of the week.

I don't know about embarrasing (sic) but it is certainly disappointing that we can't produce enough talent. If there was a better English player in Chases position this would be a none issue. No more so than there only being four different Grand Finalists and there since the franchises when it promised to level the playing field though.