if vaccines work why do unvaccinated people present a risk to those who have been vaccinated

The point is, KOKO, they present a risk to their clubs. Matchday income is vital to many clubs and a skewed fixture list with some clubs way behind on games played (see Man City 21-16 Burnley) is bad for any sport's image

the point is bab you can still get covid if you are vaccinated you are just less likely to be seriously ill if you are jabbed and if you do get very ill you are likely to have underlying health conditions obese or getting on a bit i wonder how many as got the flu these days

I have no idea what inoculations I recieved as a child. What I do know is I didn't recieve any which my mother never knew when they ended. Let alone any which involved mixing and matching different vaccines.

The stats tell us natural immunity does fight covid. You would be well aware that the vast majority of people prior to the vaccines and those unvaccinated today that catch covid will suffer some symptoms and quickly recover as well as then be provided with immunity against future infections.

This is why South Africa with a low amount of the population vaccinated have seen omrican not devastate the population as the previous variant gave people natural immunity against the current varient.

As I posted before the vaccines are great for those that require them or those that want them but I'm pro choice and personally don't think I require a covid Vaccine.

The government shouldn't have any say on what sports can go ahead when the sport has its own governing bodies to decide what course of action to take.

The sort of slippery slope having the state decide such things doesn't end.

Should they tell private companies they can't employ anyone unvaccinated? Any unvaccinated employer must be vaccinated or lose there job?

Sounds like an authoritarian state.

But the premier league games called off due to covid cases within squads is down to positive tests. Nobody has said these cases are because of unvaccinated players. Every super League player could be vaccinated and a squad could still be decimated by new cases.

A couple of days ago a fellah entered our shop without a mask and was asked whether he was excempt. The answer was no. He merely chose not to wear a mask. The staff informed him that they in turn chose not to serve him. The man later registered a complaint.

Freedom of choice seems to only work one way to the members of all vocal minorities.

will you be attending games this season and keeping your distance from those not wearing a mask and asking who as been jabbed

Should games go ahead, yes, Bongser will (more often than not) be at LSV but fears that, unless several new players are announced (and quickly), social distancing will not be a problem.

just turn up in a space suit the mind boggles

Doubt it can!

it does

Why do people die in car accidents when they were wearing seat belts?

speeding/ collisions/ drink drug driving/ thats with airbags as well/ what a daft question

Don't think thats a comparative analogy, more apt would be more people die in car accidents when they are not wearing seat belts

Either way

Oh, so less taking risks like drink driving and speeding help reduce the number of accidents, bit like wearing masks and social distancing where possible then

Also, airbags and seatbelts also help reduce deaths when accidents do occur

It's obvious what your doing, I'm just sorry for anyone who gets roped in and believes/follows your advice

its not obvious at all what im doing
i answered your question about seatbelts which is irrelevant anyway
now you answer my question if you are fully jabbed should you wear a mask

Yes, if you are OK to do so (no medical need not to) in relevant places.

Do you accept that wearing a seatbelt, having airbags significantly reduces the risk of death/serious injury if you have an accident ?

you asked why people get killed in a car wearing a seatbelt and i answered to that which as no relevance on covid restrictions
i really dont know what your talking about or what your getting at/ omicron is a bad cold so you do what you have to do

I said it in reply to you absolute rubbish about why if vaccines work do unvaccinated people present a risk to vaccinated people.

It's because seatbelts work, but people who were them are still at risk from people who wear them, but more than likely from people who stepped, drink drive, take drugs and have a careless/reckless attitude towards others and rules.

Now you cam deliberately ignore the obvious, put a smiley sunglass emoji on as many replies as you want but it's simple.
If you have had the vaccines you are far less.likely to contract, spread the virus and far less.likely to be hospitalised or suffer serious illness or death.

Wow....what a great rugby thread


Vax passports or "cindy certs" as we call them here are mandatory if you want a beer or meal in a bub, bar, cafe restaurant. That's the norm now and there's a hefty fine for the businesses that don't adhere
92% of us are double jabbed.
We still have to wear masks in most places
We don't like lock downs, passports or all the other stuff.....BUT.....we have just 51 dead bodies in 2 years.
Selfish people who won't get vaccinated are similar to the idiots who left lights on at night during the blitz.
We, the human race, are in this together, but for some unfathomable reason a tiny % of unqualified loons with internet access think they know better.
Omicron looks like the begining of the end....it's weaker...but it will still impact the old and infirm, so do your bit and reduce the risk of you either getting ill or passing it on and get the jab.
As for next season......I predict it'll involve a few postponed fixtures but as the year progresses we will return to a semblance of normality with no cancelations and St Helens lifting the trophy at old trafford

i dont disagree with that just leave those who dont want the jab alone they have the right to that choice/ i am fully jabbed but dont give a f*k about anybody else its there choice

Frank opted Not to be vaccinated....fit 38yr old guy who has always suffered with asthma but it didn't stop him playing at the highest level
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he had the right to his choice and its nothing to do with anybody else/ its sad yes but its his right