You are the Huddersfield away fan and I claim my £5

I witnessed a bit of trouble at games back in the 80's and early 90's but nothing in recent years.

I remember attending a Widnes v Wigan game at Naughton Park in 1990 or 1991, which got a bit nasty.

Is that a really bad typo or a bad attempt at our accent?!

Was that the Plate Semi-Final at Hilton Park in '97 mate? If so at the time I was gutted at not been able to get there (was only 13 or 14 so too young to drive obviously), but since then have read a few stories about that day.

I'm not old enough to have been going in the 80's. I havn't experienced all that much trouble really, a couple of pitch invasions (at Craven Park and McCalpine sp?), a brawl outside The Early Bath at Cas, and coach windows being put in at Warrington are about as bad as it's got for me. My uncle and his mate got set upon at St Helens aswell, fortunatley a car full of Hull fans were driving past at the time and came to their rescue.

I personally have never had any problems at Rugby, home or away. Even though I follow one of "those clubs with a reputation" that some posters are inferring to.

Unfortunately however, I have witnessed various incidents involving various idiots supporting Fc. Biggest of all, of course, being Good Friday 1981 at the Boulevard. The main centre of the ruckus took place at the Gordon St end, opposite to where I tended to stand. To this day, no one is totally sure who started the brick throwing (renegade Tigers fans has always been a popular view around these parts).

Things appear to be a little quieter these days, although we still do have the odd spot of bother in the NE corner of the KC. This is usually down to p!ssed up 12 year old chavs from Orchard Park getting uppity when things aren't going too well on the pitch.
Co-incidently, chav corner is again the opposite end to where I stand/sit. I obviously must be fraternising with a better class of people when I attend my favourite sport, thankfully.

They were involved with the incident a few years back that has led to me now not going to Hull. It was the Warrington game (the Andrew Johns) one and they all left early to create some pretty ugly scenes as the game finished. As usual just a minority.

That was the only time in 30 years of watching that I have been involved in anything like proper 'violence' at a game. Normally doesn't get much past the 'scuffling' stage.

RL has a great record. Just ignore that book, it is a load of b*****ks.

I see a couple of posts refer to the old "[iit was football fans, uff, uff, uff[/i" excuse. Funny, i've never heard of football violence being blamed on rugby fans!

Yes, remember hearing about that the following day. There is an element of our crowd that most of us just wish would disappear. I can imagine an incident of that nature would make people wary about paying a return visit. Thankfully, as you point out, it is a dumb minority,but a minority nevertheless who are capable of wrecking someone's weekend and can cause problems for others.

Chill out bro, my comment was meant as a joke. You know as well as me, that within the City, tigers fans have been blamed for Good Friday ever since the day it happened (even though there isn't a shred of evidence to support the theory).
I remember when we had the little incident at McAlpine, and someone phoned in to Blunderside to accuse City fans of being the culprits. The presenter then asked (tongue in cheek) if it was the same City fans who started the Good Friday riot many years before.
The laughable part about it, is the fact that in 1981, City had barely enough fans to start a scuffle, nevermind a full blown riot.

Joke accepted, it's just that an awful lot of rugby fans [iare[/i quick to point the finger at football fans, the trouble at Warrington the other year being a prime example.

Regarding Good Friday, if you ever read 'City Psychos' you discover the same lads who fought together under the City name regularly faced up to each other at rugby.

Personally I have never seen the point of fighting with opposition fans at a rugby game. It won't change what happens on the pitch or the score on the scoreboard to why bother?

Organised hooliganism has nothing to do with whatever sport they attach themselves to, it's just an excuse for people who want to have a ruck to get together and do it.

I witnessed an 80 - 100 person riot outside the Halliwell Jones when Wigan played this season. Shocking scenes.

They were not people!!!

My uncle told me a story about a fight at Thrum Hall once starting after a Hull fan grabbed a toy Fax bear from the hands of one of our (very) young fans and ripped its head off

look if you have a few thousand people some loved up on cola n lemonade then by the laws of average you will at times get fisticuffs . Ive seen a few times trouble at belle vue post and pre SL era . Wire , Hull FC , Hull KR , Fev , Fax , Salford , Huddersfield and wigan spring to mind .

Wire wakey fan shoved behind the cop knocking kid to floor lead top wakey and wire fans giving him a good hiding.

Hull FC started on wakey fans leaving boulevarde for no reason



KR perm any one of 5 one that sticks in mind is throwing the large metal bins on the field after we qualified for the 1st div GF , a few arrested . To add to this about 3 years ago some idiot KR fan thought it would be good to attack the oasis club not realising it was full of body builders high on adrenaline.

Fev mainly fight amongst themselves (talk about keep it in the family

) remember once horse backed coppers and the plod storming the kop end with a fev fan who encroached the field and ran about 85 meters before being taken down by a good tackle and a very embarrassed PC as he got a standing ovation.

Fax not sure what kicked it of but it was when we played overden in the cup.

salford , knobbers from monty's bar (Leeds UTD) attacking salford fans leaving match ...although nothing to do with WTW.

Huddersfield read above for salford , huddersfield fan took a pasting i tried to stop my car as i was leaving telling the poor lad toi just go home and not to retaliate . the pub was full of these morons.

wigan a few years ago whilst a wigan fan was leaving a wakey chav gobbed him the wigan fan started to attack him so the wakey fan shoved my little lad who was 5 at the time to the ground injuring his legh ...first time ever ive come close to smacking someone myself at a game thankfully i got held back but it just goes to show how easy these things can go bang.

although ive mentioned the above in 25 years plus i dont think that's a bad return , when i go up town on a friday night i see violence every time.

You are disillusioned. That book only recounts a small percentage of the violence at matches spanning back from the 70`s till now. Believe me, there were many, many nasty scenes. On a par with what was witnessed at football. I don`t condone violence (I`m a lover not a fighter

) but you can`t dismiss the facts or history.

i remember fighting spilling on to the field during half time at headingley between cas and hull fans in the 92 challenge cup semi final,serious enough to make the front page of the yep and calander news at the time.

more recently their was trouble when cas made the trip up to cumbria to play whitehaven.

Remember both incidents, the headingley trouble im certain was started by Hull City hooligans.

It looked like it was organised.

That's complete nonsense. Crowd trouble at RL games was not remotely on a par with what happened in football in the 1970s or 80s. How many RL fans died in this violence? How many arrests were there? How many matches were attended by thousands of policemen? How many grounds introduced segregation and steel fences?

I've certainly seen plenty of nasty stuff inside and outside RL grounds, the Widnes/Warrington Premiership semi in 1988 being the most large-scale incident, but it was not even 1% of what was happening in football at the same time.

The worst i've experienced and hopefully last was at Keighley vs. Hull late 90's i think. The Hull fans weren't too happy throughout the first half, which resulted in the crowd surging forward and knocking down the sponsor barriers. They calmed down in the second half if i remember rightly after repeated warnings over the tannoy.

I can agree with JonM about the premiership semi. There were skirmishes in Widnes before the game and running battles inside the ground before half time.

It was at half time when things really went off when the Warrington fans went onto the pitch to change ends. Widnes fans who had been 'charged' out of the cowsheds had moved around the side of the ground and got onto the pitch from the terraces next to the main stand and met with Warrington fans on the pitch. What ensued really was a pitch battle with sets of fans from all sides of the ground spilling onto the field fighting went on for some time with the testart being delayed for 15 - 20 mins. Trouble continued through the town after the game.

The catalyst for the trouble was an incident in Warrington town centre after 'The Roller Rink' - anyone remember that? There had also been trouble for a few weeks before in and around 'the rink' and word had spread that Widnes lads shouldn't go on a certain Friday night as Warrington lads were to be there en masse. It was true as when us Widnes lads were making our way back to Central Station under police escort, Warrington lads 'en masse' as had been promised poured out of The Golden Square area and ran at us. The coppers even said the best thing to do was run for it.
One Widnes lad got stabbed twice - he was ok - I saw him on Saturday night just gone! A certain person who was at the time an Everton hooligan from Widnes arranged for his 'friends' from Everton to come over for the Premiership semi final promising that there would be little in the way of police and they could do practically what they want. Rumour has it that some Warrington fans were slashed on the pitch but I'm unsure how true this is.

I wasn't involved in any of the trouble as I too am a lover not a fighter, I was just a Widnes fan and a Roller Rink fan ( or at least the girls who used to go there).

Lots of little scuffles mainly with Cas, Fev and Leeds in the 80's/90's. But the Warrington prem semi was as bad as it gets.

By `88 CCTV, and by some degree the police, had both started to get there act together and the Aciiiiiiiiid culture was just kicking in. But for no explanation that I can give, there was very little police presence at RL in the late 70`s early 80`s (81-85 was very active what I can remember). Cages at grounds meant nothing, a lot of trouble happened outside of grounds. I have personally seen scores of incidents, a lot of them nasty. And thankfully not that I know of nobody has been killed at a RL game And let`s hope it stays that way.
As for the most large scale I`ll throw in Maine Rd 89
Burndem Park 87
And by the way, just because you didn`t see it doesn`t mean it didn`t happen.

think it was a play off game in 1996 got beat 41-28