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| Quote ="CW8"Sam tomkins is a no brainer, I would also take ratchford as his versatility could turn out to be very important.'"
How much has Ratchford played at Full Back this year? If it's more than 15 games I'll throw him in there too.
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| I would personally prefer to see Tomkins at 6/7, largely because
a) I think Hardaker is a better defensive full back than him
b) I think Tomkins, even though he isn't a regular half back, is still better than most of the alternative options.
For me,
1 Hardaker
6 Widdop
7 Tomkins
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"I would personally prefer to see Tomkins at 6/7, largely because
a) I think Hardaker is a better defensive full back than him
b) I think Tomkins, even though he isn't a regular half back, is still better than most of the alternative options.
For me,
1 Hardaker
6 Widdop
7 Tomkins'"
Whilst I completely agree with your sentiments, I'm trying to keep the squad in line with the positions players will probably end up playing if selected.
Would you play Tomkins over Hardaker if he couldn't be accommodated in the halves?
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| Both should play. Whether we do that by shifting Tomkins to the halves, or Hardaker to the wing. Both should be on the field.
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| Tomkins at fullback with Hardaker left centre for me and Matty Smith at 7.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Both should play. Whether we do that by shifting Tomkins to the halves, or Hardaker to the wing. Both should be on the field.'"
Once again, I agree, however I'm trying to enter the head of McBanana and I can't see him doing that.
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| Hardaker.
Tomkins at 6.
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| Why should both be on the field? I don't think we should boot out another player who plays in the correct position just to accommodate both.
1. Tomkins
2. Hall
3. Shenton
4.Reed
5. Charnley
6. Widdop
7.smith
OR (before Rhino fans have ANOTHER fit)
1. Hardaker
With Tomkins at 6 with one of Smith/Widdop missing out.
Personally I think the top option is best as the half back options are better and we are playing players in their out and out positions. If Tomkins were injured then I'd have Hardaker at FB way before the likes of Grix and Eden who are just garbage.
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| I have gone Hardaker and Lomax as squad cover (is he fit by then?) Would play Tomkins in the halves.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"I have gone Hardaker and Lomax as squad cover (is he fit by then?) Would play Tomkins in the halves.'"
Lomax won't be fit but I'd already typed his name when I remembered. Would you play Tomkins over Hardaker if he couldn't be accommodated in the halves?
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Lomax won't be fit but I'd already typed his name when I remembered. Would you play Tomkins over Hardaker if he couldn't be accommodated in the halves?'"
Fair enough.
If i was picking the team then i would want both in the team no matter what.It just seems to me to make sense to have Tomkins move up to partner Widdop where he can still have his huge attacking influence on the game and we would then have the added bonus of being more secure in the last line of defence and Zak does bring his own attacking threats to the table too.I suppose you could accommodate both by playing Zak on the wing and leaving Sam at FB with Smith at 7 (who imo is the only other half who should be considered) but we are also very strong on the flanks so would be leaving out some top talent somewhere.
At least we have proper choices for once it seems.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Both should play. Whether we do that by shifting Tomkins to the halves, or Hardaker to the wing. Both should be on the field.'"
Do you, or any Leeds fans, think Hardaker could play left centre? That's where I think we have a question and as the Australians can have a back line full of full backs i reckon we could accommodate Hardaker.
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| Quote ="Major Tom"Do you, or any Leeds fans, think Hardaker could play left centre? That's where I think we have a question and as the Australians can have a back line full of full backs i reckon we could accommodate Hardaker.'"
He wasn't all that at centre when he played there for us however he has come on as a player since so i am sure would be better these days.
Is Shenton not nailed on for Left Centre anyway?
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| Tomkins full back. Hardaker and Hall on the wings
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| Hardaker full back, Tomkins halves. No question.
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| GOOD GOD how did g Eden get in the vote if he played for us against France we would get beat never mind OZ or new Zealand are you
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Hardaker full back, Tomkins halves. No question.'"
Agreed. Those two have to be on the pitch. Tomkins has pretty much played at 6 this season everytime the Warriors were in possession.
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| Quote ="cravenpark1"GOOD GOD how did g Eden get in the vote if he played for us against France we would get beat never mind OZ or new Zealand are you
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I think he's terrible but in the interest of fairness and no bias he had to be included as an option at least. I'm not saying I'd pick him, far from it.
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| Not sure people are getting the whole pick for the offered position as it's where they are likely to be played...
For what it's worth I would have Tomkins at 6, but it simply isn't going to happen so can we please vote for FULL BACK.
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| Scott Grix plays for Ireland so why you pick an inegligible player is confusing
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| Is the Scott Grix suggestion/option a serious one?
Crikey.
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| Tomkins.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"Scott Grix plays for Ireland so why you pick an inegligible player is confusing'"
there is no such thing as an ineligible player in the eyes of the RLIF
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| I think I would go Hardaker at full back, reason being I would use Sam T and Widdop as the halfbacks.
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| Quote ="Major Tom"Do you, or any Leeds fans, think Hardaker could play left centre? That's where I think we have a question and as the Australians can have a back line full of full backs i reckon we could accommodate Hardaker.'"
Hardaker is technically not that great. He is a fantastic defender, safe under the kick, and a great runner and finisher. He isnt a great passer and doesnt run fantastic centre lines.
He could play centre but he will leave his winger starved of ball and basically a bit of a passenger in attack.
Personally i would think of putting Ablett at left centre inside Hardaker to play as a bit of a centre/2nd row mix. Which i think we would be a bit stronger defensively, and if the play is going to stop at Hardaker anyway another forward on the field would give us a bit more oomph than a bit of a superfluous winger.
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