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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"You've been "massively affected" by your former Chairman deciding to get into a measuring contest with another club despite having absolutely no chance of winning.
You've been "massively affected" by not taking the opportunity to give yourselves some financial cushion when you were on top and drawing huge crowds.
You've been "massively affected" by using a dubious tax avoidance measure to maintain a stronger playing squad than you could realistically afford.
The credit crunch and the tax bill are the breeze that has knocked over the whole house of cards. It's nobody's fault but the Bulls that they weren't living in a more durable structure to start with.'"
All true.
None of it is the fans fault though. We don't get a say in who our chairman is. All we are trying to do is keep our club going. Put yourselves in our shoes.
Would you care about your dignity and own money or would you give your own and beg others to do the same? Don't care how many enemies I make or if i'm made to look a complete t/wat. Just want my club to survive this.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"You may call me a fool, you're probably right, but it's because I love my club. Money comes and goes, it's not that important to me. My club is.
I think you can agree aswell (and yes I'll admit every club has had similar to deal with) that Bradford has been hit harder than most cities by the economy.'"
I have no problem with a new Bradford club starting in the SL - Exactly like Wakey did.
My issue is with the current set up trying to get themselves bailed out by their own fans and others. I simply cannot condone the current Bulls board remaining in place or the Bulls maintaining there current squad set up based partly on monies gifted to them by non Bulls fans. I would support a new club especially one with a supporter element on the Board but that is not what we or you are being asked to fund. You are being asked to prop up a corrupt regime. If Hoods so sure why is he not hocking his house to prop the club.
I don't doubt your passion but IMHO your being taken for a ride.
I work in Bradford but live in Wakefield and Bradford is no worse off than we are that's for sure.
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| Quote ="vastman"I simply cannot condone the current Bulls board remaining in place or the Bulls maintaining there current squad set up based partly on monies gifted to them by non Bulls fans.'"
It's not really up to you to condone the free actions of those generous people.
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| Quote ="vastman"And now people like you are out with your begging bowl as if your entitled to be rescued and by so doing keep your place in the elite with your squad in tact.'"
They have asked, and you are free to decide.
Another manufactured opinion presented as fact from Vastman.
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| Quote ="vastman"I have no problem with a new Bradford club starting in the SL - Exactly like Wakey did.
My issue is with the current set up trying to get themselves bailed out by their own fans and others. I simply cannot condone the current Bulls board remaining in place or the Bulls maintaining there current squad set up based partly on monies gifted to them by non Bulls fans. I would support a new club especially one with a supporter element on the Board but that is not what we or you are being asked to fund.
I don't doubt your passion but IMHO your being taken for a ride.'"
=#0040FFI'm a Cas fan and I agree with the above.
Don't like to see the Bulls in this situation and hope there is a way for the club to survive but not this way, not with the current regime still in charge.
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| Quote ="vbfg"They have asked, and you are free to decide.
Another manufactured opinion presented as fact from Vastman.'"
Manufactured a bit like Bull sorry Cougarmania. You'll get no backtracking from me, I stand by every word - the Bulls got everything coming to them and it's about time the club manned up and took it's medicine like every other club has in the past Would you like a list of those clubs who have been in the same boat. Or should I just mention Leigh, a club that has had non of the advantages and mock sympathy bestowed on Bradford and has received zip in the way of support from "th RL family".
I can barely keep the sick down so nauseating is the peoples teams bleating.
Separate fan from club, take a step back and you might just get the issue here.
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| Quote ="vastman"Separate fan from club, take a step back and you might just get the issue here.'"
To be fair, I thought you were a knob completely independently of you supporting Wakefield. You're a one man rumour mill who believes whatever you happen to be making up at the time. If at any point you hit upon the truth it's not that you've found it out, it just happens to be one of the possibilities from the facts and rumours available to you and you thought it was worth a punt.
NOW WE KNOW!
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| Quote ="vastman"...Leigh, a club that has had non of the advantages and mock sympathy bestowed on Bradford and has received zip in the way of support from "th RL family".
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Separate fan from club, take a step back and you might just get the issue here.'"
Nobody is having a problem getting "the issue" you seem to have. which is that the Bulls are getting a lot of support which you think Leigh did not. The only conflict you need to resolve in your head is that you seem to be at odds with the feelings and opinion of "the RL family". I have seen a huge wave of support and sympathy for the club and its fans - if not its Board - from across the whole spectrum, of that family. Those who fundamentally disagree are of course equally entitled to an opinion, it's just that you would understand the situation better if you didn't fool yourself that you and your issue are in the minority, and overwhelmingly the RL family are being very supportive.
IF you perceive Leigh didn't get this support, so what? Write a letter of complaint to the RL family.
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| Is "Vastman" local Wakey dialect for "Knôbhead"?
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Is "Vastman" local Wakey dialect for "Knôbhead"?'"
I have been banned for less on this forum I expect the same treatment afforded to these scroungers!
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| I think it's probably fine if you direct your s at actual s.
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| Quote ="vbfg"I think it's probably fine if you direct your s at actual s.'"
Ah I see now, can someone ban that adeybull.
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| I see the "it happened to me, it should happen to you too" school of thought is strong in Wakefield.
Same to you with s on.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Is "Vastman" local Wakey dialect for "Knôbhead"?'"
That's more like the arrogant Bulls fans we come to know, didn't take long to expose the real creep beneath the mask of respectability.
You really think your owed some respect - your not - K.N.O.B.H.E.A.D.
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| Quote ="vbfg"I see the "it happened to me, it should happen to you too" school of thought is strong in Wakefield.
Same to you with s on.'"
So you think your a special case then?
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| No, I just think you're s.
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| Quote ="vbfg"I think it's probably fine if you direct your s at actual s.'"
Well that's sorted the - right back at you son.
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| Quote ="vbfg"No, I just think you're s.'"
Yet somehow you want nay demand the support and compassion of other fans - way to go fool.
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| Quote ="vastman"Yet somehow you want nay demand the support and compassion of other fans - way to go fool.'"
As has been explained to you, and as anybody can see, you have been asked to donate and it is your free choice whether you want to or not. Nobody is demanding anything from you. This is obvious to anyone who isn't one of the s.
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| Quote ="inside man"So you think your a special case then?'"
Of course he does - not an ounce of repentance from the club and seemingly there more strident supporters.
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| Repentance for what? Calling people who make up and declare it truth s? You'll be waiting a long time for that, kn0bhead.
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| Quote ="vbfg"As has been explained to you, and as anybody can see, you have been asked to donate and it is your free choice whether you want to or not. Nobody is demanding anything from you. This is obvious to anyone who isn't one of the s.'"
No you haven't explained anything, you have just stated the obvious and nothing to do with the original point. You then called me a .
Your pseudo reasoned poster facade lays crumpled in a heap - basically when someone annoys you with an opinion that isn't yours, you resort to your real self - petulant .
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| Quote ="vastman"Yet somehow you want nay demand the support and compassion of other fans - way to go fool.'"
That's not really a problem though, is it, when most of the rest of the world and its dog also knows you to be a kn0bhead.
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| Seems the Bradford fans expect special treatment at all times. I didn't want you to fail but I think I will enjoy it when you do but only because of the likes of yourself, Adey and Mystic Eddie. Real bottom of the barrel stuff. It's the Northern fans I feel sorry for.
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| Quote ="vbfg"Repentance for what? Calling people who make poop up and declare it truth s? You'll be waiting a long time for that, kn0bhead.'"
Waiting for what, oh the arrogance - I couldn't care less what you say about me - I mean "" it's not so cutting that I won't live.
The repentance is from the club, Bradford Bulls RLFC Ltd - not you, your nothing in case what your club has done to you has passed you by - you couldn't make it up though apparently I have
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