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| wigan are prob the best organised team i have seen for years. everyone knows there place and job and they have been a bloody good side. there is no doubt lima, who i really rate as a go forward prop, does have a questionable 'tackling' technique and i'm not sure how he has escaped lengthy bans.
also with hoffman and coley gone players will be be able to keep there heads on there shoulders again.
but really the fault lies with the spineless RFL. if they clamped down and hammered players, from all teams not just wigan, then deliberate foul play would stop almost overnight
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| Quote ="warrior24"A young up and coming coach in Australia given the opportunity to cut his teeth in the UK with the worlds biggest club. Makes no signings takes them to league leaders and a grand final win in his first year. Then comes a narrow loss to St George in the world club challenge, then he guides them to a CC final win (best team in the comp by far). Then he coaches a team to second spot (only 4 losses in weekly rounds) for them to lose narrowly in the semi final. He's now heading back to Oz to coach probably the most historic team in the NRL.
He's never moaned about our game, player or team, and comes across very proffesional in his approach to the game.
British RL fans are fickle.'"
The worlds biggest club that managed the smallest gate off the playoffs (6790), massive club..... no really.
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| Quote ="Guerrier"But that's not what you were constantly alluding to.
but I refuse to accept that Maguire, Lima or anyone else in any team is deliberately aiming to cause a serious injury to a fellow professional.'"
Who are you Mr Dumb or Mr Dumber..........................We've played your lot 6 times this season and I've seen enough of your lot executing tackles to injure. Speaking to some of the parents at St Judes last weekend even they are concerned about the technique and don,t want it creeping into the young amateur game.
Its a pity Lima isn't going back to Oz with Hoffman and McGuire before he cripples someone out of the game, at least Coley has retired before he does any more head damage....................Why are Wigoons so DUMB and DUMBER.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Why are Wigoons so DUMB and DUMBER.'"
Maybe it's to entertain predictable tit heads like yourself!
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| I didn't like him purely because he was a smaller, slitty mouthed version of Arsene wenger. Never saw anything wrong with any of his players, was the only man on the planet that saw nothing wrong with Hocks gouging or other incidents. He wasn't even a good coach, the last month has proved that. Without the RFL and referees on his side he relinquinshed the Champions title without so much as a whimper. When public opinion forced the referees to enforce the rules Wigan looked a very average team. Wigan are a one man outfit and when the aussies smash him to pieces this winter they won't even be that.
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| Quote ="leeds owl" Wigan are a one man outfit and when the aussies smash him to pieces this winter they won't even be that.'"
And can you imagine if he comes badged up as "Man of Steel" against the aussies, you might as well stick a fairground coconut on his head....right now.
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| Quote ="leeds owl"I didn't like him purely because he was a smaller, slitty mouthed version of Arsene wenger. Never saw anything wrong with any of his players, was the only man on the planet that saw nothing wrong with Hocks gouging or other incidents. He wasn't even a good coach, the last month has proved that. Without the RFL and referees on his side he relinquinshed the Champions title without so much as a whimper. When public opinion forced the referees to enforce the rules Wigan looked a very average team. Wigan are a one man outfit and when the aussies smash him to pieces this winter they won't even be that.'"
That's a lot of bait you've used there. Here fishies, fishies...
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| Quote ="warrior24"Maybe it's to entertain predictable tit heads like yourself!'"
Couldn't have put it better myse lf !
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| Quote ="leeds owl"I didn't like him purely because he was a smaller, slitty mouthed version of Arsene wenger. Never saw anything wrong with any of his players, was the only man on the planet that saw nothing wrong with Hocks gouging or other incidents. He wasn't even a good coach, the last month has proved that. Without the RFL and referees on his side he relinquinshed the Champions title without so much as a whimper. When public opinion forced the referees to enforce the rules Wigan looked a very average team. Wigan are a one man outfit and when the aussies smash him to pieces this winter they won't even be that.'"
You must be so pi--ed off that you don't have the chance to re-write history this Saturday, lest you have forgotten, Leeds have never beaten Wigan in a final of any description.
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| Quote ="Donna"Complete rubbish again, love it! Long may it continue with our next coach!'" This is why you pie wafflers are sooooo despised by all other rugby supporters.
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| Quote ="redex113"This is why you pie wafflers are sooooo despised by all other rugby supporters.
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Quote ="Wigg'n"Did both players get up with no complaints and play the ball? I've honestly not even seen the game yet (and don't intend to
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=78WXX7xo8OQ
That's not an attempt to "effect the tackle" to me that's a team effort to end Dixon's walking days!
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That's not an attempt to "effect the tackle" to me that's a team effort to end Dixon's walking days!
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| Quote ="Finfin"You must be so pi--ed off that you don't have the chance to re-write history this Saturday, lest you have forgotten, Leeds have never beaten Wigan in a final of any description.'"
Or Toulouse
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| Quote ="Finfin"Leeds have never beaten Wigan in a final of any description.'"
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Hopefully Wigan will focus on this great fluid attack the apparently have and can let the ankle twisting, knee attacking, penalty milking, cowardly lion impression they have shown in the past couple of years go.'"
Absolutely agree - Maguire has poisoned SL with a brand of rugby that may well have won some games, but has made an unpleasant and unedifying spectacle; several well respected coaches, countless observers and a group of players can't all be wrong. Good riddance to the sneering, cheating barsteward.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Absolutely agree - Maguire has poisoned SL with a brand of rugby that may well have won some games, but has made an unpleasant and unedifying spectacle; several well respected coaches, countless observers and a group of players can't all be wrong. Good riddance to the sneering, cheating barsteward.'"
Haha.
How have Wakefield been doing these past couple of years btw? Not taken much notice of them.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Haha.
How have Wakefield been doing these past couple of years btw? Not taken much notice of them.'"
What does that have to with anything that I posted, or anything else that's been said in this thread?
If you don't have a suitable or relevant retort to the original point, you do realise that you're not compelled to comment?
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| Quote ="bren2k"What does that have to with anything that I posted, or anything else that's been said in this thread?
If you don't have a suitable or relevant retort to the original point, you do realise that you're not compelled to comment?'"
Just bored of the sh@t you post on here about Wigan, seemingly constantly.
It's funny because you'd probably give one of your testicles to have Maguire coaching Wakefield.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Just bored of the sh@t you post on here about Wigan, seemingly constantly.
It's funny because you'd probably give one of your testicles to have Maguire coaching Wakefield.'"
It's called having an opinion - I have one about how Wigan play the game under Maguire and when it's relevant, I post it.
As for your second point (and I use the term 'point' in it's loosest possible sense) no, categorically and unequivocally not.
If you're bored with reading other people's opinions, may I respectfully suggest that an internet forum may not be the best use of your spare time?
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| A lot of the criticism of Maguire is way OTT. He brought in an NRL-style defence to Wigan, which has worked wonders for the side. I have no problem with a coach playing to the rules with the intention of winning.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"A lot of the criticism of Maguire is way OTT. He brought in an NRL-style defence to Wigan, which has worked wonders for the side. I have no problem with a coach playing to the rules with the intention of winning.'"
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"A lot of the criticism of Maguire is way OTT. He brought in an NRL-style defence to Wigan, which has worked wonders for the side. I have no problem with a coach playing to the rules with the intention of winning.'"
So is winning okay if it means you are likely to maim an opposition player? As Mick Potter said, most clubs would have an ethical opposition to that.
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| loved his little brochure showing which joints to pinpoint in the tackle.
Quote ="Saddened!"It's a known technique that came from Melbourne. It's called the cannonball tackle and caused a lot of controversy when a 16 year old lost his career to it. The links to the Storm are there.'"
Road kill achieved i believe Maguire likes it to be called.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Who are you Mr Dumb or Mr Dumber..........................We've played your lot 6 times this season and I've seen enough of your lot executing tackles to injure. Speaking to some of the parents at St Judes last weekend even they are concerned about the technique and don,t want it creeping into the young amateur game.
Its a pity Lima isn't going back to Oz with Hoffman and McGuire before he cripples someone out of the game, at least Coley has retired before he does any more head damage....................Why are Wigoons so DUMB and DUMBER.'"
You've seen plenty of tackles, but you have no idea as to what the tackler intended to do at that moment - none of us do. Parents are quite correct to be ''concerned about the technique'', but that isn't to say that it's a deliberate attempt to injure people, more that the technique itself can be dangerous if not carefully and properly managed and applied.
Oh, and before you talk about me, or any other Wigan fans being 'DUMB', learn some basic grammar.
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| Quote ="Guerrier"more that the technique itself can be dangerous if not carefully and properly managed and applied.'"
Are you seriously suggesting that Maguire has trained the likes of Lima and Hoffman to 'carefully and properly manage and apply' their tackle technique?! That's the most ridiculous statement I've heard throughout this discussion and is not in any way borne out by the evidence that's before our very eyes on a weekly basis.
Two men hold up the tackled player - a third man barrels into his standing leg with no regard to the possible consequences; there is nothing careful or managed about that, as you well know.
Sheesh - as I've said before, it's like a cult.
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