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| Quote ="little wayne69"The coach and his staff work with the players all week and will have a lot better idea what's working and what isn't, so for me it's better to put personal preferences to one side and let them get on with it, one thing for sure, without trying to insult anybody, most fans think they know better and for every half a dozen he pleases it will balance itself out with those he upsets
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Yes and we have seen him play in many games with below par performances. He may look good in training but in a game not so and these are what matters. If he was playing with a weakened squad then yes play Brough but we are not therefore stick with what as been working.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Yes and we have seen him play in many games with below par performances. He may look good in training but in a game not so and these are what matters. If he was playing with a weakened squad then yes play Brough but we are not therefore stick with what as been working.'"
Or alternatively, realise that Max is actually injured.......
But that doesn’t fit with the agenda does it?
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| Quote ="Daddycool"Or alternatively, realise that Max is actually injured.......
But that doesn’t fit with the agenda does it?'"
You do know you've spoiled a good thread DC?
One thing that has come out of all this Max Jowitt thing, is his value as a genuine utility player. On that alone he's worth his weight in gold.
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| Slightly o/t but, having just at a peak at the Bulls website to have a look at their squad for Friday, they have a great feature on there about their opposition (us).
We should think about "borrowing" this idea for our own website.
Interestingly, there are no ex Trinity players in their squad, which, in respect of meetings between the two sides, must be the first time for a while but, they are claiming 4 ex Bulls in our side, Jay Pitts being one of them - even though he was with Trinity first !
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| Quote ="Daddycool"Or alternatively, realise that Max is actually injured.......
But that doesn’t fit with the agenda does it?'"
I did mention that as a possibility way back on page 2...
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| So how hard would it have been for the club to let us know that Max was injured ??
One sentence in the press release naming the 21 man squad would have sufficed !!
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Slightly o/t but, having just at a peak at the Bulls website to have a look at their squad for Friday, they have a great feature on there about their opposition (us).
We should think about "borrowing" this idea for our own website.
Interestingly, there are no ex Trinity players in their squad, which, in respect of meetings between the two sides, must be the first time for a while but, they are claiming 4 ex Bulls in our side, Jay Pitts being one of them - even though he was with Trinity first !'"
Is Anthony England injured, and just to save my embarrassment, could it be a different player?.
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| Quote ="FIL"So how hard would it have been for the club to let us know that Max was injured ??
One sentence in the press release naming the 21 man squad would have sufficed !!'"
Maybe there's some value in keeping ones powder dry, so that opposition coaches of upcoming fixtures don't know what to prepare for until the last possible moment?
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| Quote ="FIL"So how hard would it have been for the club to let us know that Max was injured ??
One sentence in the press release naming the 21 man squad would have sufficed !!'"
To be fair it wouldn't have been difficult would it ,but the thought obviously did not occur to them, because the Coach etc don't see the same issues that we do re Max.
The omission of such comment however, led to the previous comments on this thread. As Max is injured then there's no questioning CC's team selection for me.
C C has to put out what HE feels is the best team for the job - I get that - but to say the least, Max Jowitt has, in the past been an extremely unfortunate victim of circumstances, of which he has no control. His loyalty to the club, is without question .
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| Quote ="little wayne69"Is Anthony England injured, and just to save my embarrassment, could it be a different player?.'"
I think it could be my (and Bradford's) embarrassment, I never noticed his name on their squad list
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| Quote ="FIL"So how hard would it have been for the club to let us know that Max was injured ??
One sentence in the press release naming the 21 man squad would have sufficed !!'"
So let me get this right, you want the club to tell the supporters why certain players aren’t in the 21. Why just Max, why not say Bachelor or any other player who is not in the squad, the one line sentence would fill a whole page.
Out of interest, a few months ago some were clamouring for Hampshire to be in the backs so now you have seen Jowitt play there, who is now in your opinion should play in the backs if not Brough ?
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| Quote ="bren2k"I did mention that as a possibility way back on page 2...'"
On page one I said is he 100% fit. A lot jump in with 2 feet a lot of passionate and emotional fans following trinity.
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| Brough is still our best half back and needs a run out. No brainer for me for him to play this one. Max has done well but not looked like some world beating half that some are pretending he has done.
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| Max and Jordy both out with strains and not being risked. Brough and Faffita playing. Chris mentioned in his interview. We'll name a strong team and not take them likely. It'll be a good game hopefully!
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| Quote ="Jethro Gibbs"So let me get this right, you want the club to tell the supporters why certain players aren’t in the 21. Why just Max, why not say Bachelor or any other player who is not in the squad, the one line sentence would fill a whole page.
Out of interest, a few months ago some were clamouring for Hampshire to be in the backs so now you have seen Jowitt play there, who is now in your opinion should play in the backs if not Brough ?'"
The difference is that CC is on record as saying Broughy would have to fight for his place back and then the squad is announced and there is no sign of Jowitt but Brough back in the squad. I think it's reasonable to question why no Jowitt and as we're not mind readers a one liner would have explained it away - as has been the case many times in the past!
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| Quote ="supercat"On page one I said is he 100% fit. A lot jump in with 2 feet a lot of passionate and emotional fans following trinity.'"
Correct, and I'll stick my hand up and say I was one of them.
I've pointed out elsewhere what I think about the Max situation.but his day will come, if not here, elsewhere.
Meanwhile I'm not gutted that Broughy is playing - a fit Brough is still a joy to watch, and I'm looking forward fo seeing how Big Dave fares, so no doom and gloom from me!
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| Quote ="Jethro Gibbs"So let me get this right, you want the club to tell the supporters why certain players aren’t in the 21. Why just Max, why not say Bachelor or any other player who is not in the squad, the one line sentence would fill a whole page.
Out of interest, a few months ago some were clamouring for Hampshire to be in the backs so now you have seen Jowitt play there, who is now in your opinion should play in the backs if not Brough ?'"
The point is that Max was playing and then wasn't. That is worth a comment.
Even more so when MC chastised someone for not knowing it.
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| Quote ="PopTart"The point is that Max was playing and then wasn't. That is worth a comment.
Even more so when MC chastised someone for not knowing it.'"
Jordy played last week and isn’t in the 21.
Connor Bailey was in the 21 and isn’t this week.
No clamour for news about them
The bottom line is that some people think our head coach doesn’t like Max. That’s despite him signing Max on a 3 year deal. He must be mental signing someone he doesn’t like.
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| Fair comment DC, and with no disrespect to Jordy or Connor, but Max has been THE key player in THE key role since Brough and Rocky got injured and with Chessie saying Brough would have to fight for his place back in the team because Max has been playing so well, then surely you can understand people's frustration when IT APPEARS as though Max has been dropped because Broughy is back. As has been stated above, when other players have been injured in the past, all it took was a one-liner on the press release to say that "X" picked up a knock last week/in training, so isn't in the squad, especially with the squad now being announced 48 hours before kick-off ???
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| Quote ="Daddycool"Or alternatively, realise that Max is actually injured.......
But that doesn’t fit with the agenda does it?'"
Or alternatively tell the fans whats happening a little earlier, thus avoiding the agenda.
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| Quote ="Daddycool"Jordy played last week and isn’t in the 21.
Connor Bailey was in the 21 and isn’t this week.
No clamour for news about them
The bottom line is that some people think our head coach doesn’t like Max. That’s despite him signing Max on a 3 year deal. He must be mental signing someone he doesn’t like.'"
Relax. Most know that isn't true.
But there are people who think the world is flat too.
You won't convince them no matter how many times you explain.
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| You can understand why Mr Chester now keeps clear of the forum with some of the comment posted .But maybe a list of players out for the follow match through injury early in week ,could stop a lot of the negative comments been posted .D C as said ,Jowitt is injured that's good enough for me
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| Quote ="Daddycool"Or alternatively, realise that Max is actually injured.......
But that doesn’t fit with the agenda does it?'" quite why the owner/chairman whatever he is feels the need to come on this forum making quite clearly sarcastic comments towards supporters that are actually committed to the club is beyond me. This is a fans forum he’s plenty of other mediums he can access to get his views across unlike us
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| I think we should just end it there and chill.
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| Quote ="alegend"You can understand why Mr Chester now keeps clear of the forum with some of the comment posted .But maybe a list of players out for the follow match through injury early in week ,could stop a lot of the negative comments been posted .D C as said ,Jowitt is injured that's good enough for me'"
What a great idea! Why give your next opponents such a big advantage by telling them which players there not facing
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