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| Quote ="moving on..."It's just a cold/Flu virus ffs. Dettol kills it, the only people who have died from it are those who already have serious immune weakening illness like pneumonia.
Everyone just needs to calm down. No idea what the mask thing is about because they offer no protection against the virus whatsoever. you're better off wearing surgical gloves.'"
No need for the expletives or the rest of your quackery IMO.
You do realise that a Cold isn't Flu and that people can/have died of Flu? It's probably OK though just nature's way of bumping off the weak. I can agree with your second sentence to some degree about calm/masks and hand hygiene BUT traveling to affected areas even if you have the constitution of Conan the Barbarian is a consideration.
Case in point I've recently returned from skiing in Lombardy no worries as it was before any reported outbreak (and I had TCP available at all times) you'll be pleased to know and so will Dave Roy and Clare on SW 40 that I'm fine. However Auntie Rico's sister has just returned from the same resort via Milan airport and she has been advised by work to self quarantine and her kids got the same from their school.
So although at the moment there is a binary choice, as it's not on the FO's hit list, it's not a simple 'should I stay or should go now' decision based on a rational/irrational fear of catching a 'heavy flu' or a reliance upon the power of Dettol. You might also be taking a chance of a couple of weeks in the comfort of your own home, or stuck abroad should the picture change and you don't make it back.
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| Quote ="Redvee69"
People need to get a grip, between coronavirus, climate change, terrorist threats, stabbings muggings and murders on our streets and brexit, if you believed all the naysayers youd never go out of your front door'"
It sounds pretty rough in St Helens, I can see why you need to get away for a bit now. You've not bought one of those cheap flights with a stopover in Tehran have you ?
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| Are most of us going to die? probably not.
Are we going to experience things that will inconvenience us (a nasty bout of flu, having other NHS appointments cancelled, not being able to get something in the shops at some point), well that is definitely a possibility.
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| Quote ="Winslade's Offload"It sounds pretty rough in St Helens, I can see why you need to get away for a bit now. You've not bought one of those cheap flights with a stopover in Tehran have you ?'"
No we are really roughing it and going via warrington
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| Quote ="moving on..."It's just a cold/Flu virus ffs. Dettol kills it, the only people who have died from it are those who already have serious immune weakening illness like pneumonia.
Everyone just needs to calm down. No idea what the mask thing is about because they offer no protection against the virus whatsoever. you're better off wearing surgical gloves.'"
Coronavirus kills 5% of people that get it, with 15% of people getting critically ill. Most people will recover from it easy enough but it’s certainly more deadly than flu which kills 0.1% and isn’t comparable to a cold.
I hope Coronavirus isn’t used as an excuse for your poor travelling support, and in response to the OP, if SL is played in front of empty stadiums watching games will be the last of our worries, more pressing will be obtaining food, most of which is imported.
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| Quote ="Redvee69"No we are really roughing it and going via warrington'"
Like monte carlo as far as you are concerned.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"This forum is great because you get expert analysis on every subject.
Get your investments in Dettol stocks now because once the governments of the world realise this is the way to stop the pandemic their price is gonna go through the roof.'"
literally says it right on the back.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Coronavirus kills 5% of people that get it, with 15% of people getting critically ill. Most people will recover from it easy enough but it’s certainly more deadly than flu which kills 0.1% and isn’t comparable to a cold.
I hope Coronavirus isn’t used as an excuse for your poor travelling support, and in response to the OP, if SL is played in front of empty stadiums watching games will be the last of our worries, more pressing will be obtaining food, most of which is imported.'"
Your statistics are right in one sense but also very wrong. Numbers can be twisted to show whatever statistic you want to work in your favor don't forget. COVID-19 actually has a mortality rate of 2% of that 2%, 15% of the people who have died were over the age of 80 and of that 15%, those without a pre-existing medical condition (comorbidities) have a 0.9% chance of passing from the Virus.
This link should shed a lot of light. [urlhttps://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/[/url
We has all this with Bird Flu, Swine Flu, Spanish Flu, SARS, MERS, Ebola... All of which came to nothing. Wash your hands regularly, Keep calm and carry on.
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| Quote ="moving on..."Your statistics are right in one sense but also very wrong. Numbers can be twisted to show whatever statistic you want to work in your favor don't forget. COVID-19 actually has a mortality rate of 2% of that 2%, 15% of the people who have died were over the age of 80 and of that 15%, those without a pre-existing medical condition (comorbidities) have a 0.9% chance of passing from the Virus.
This link should shed a lot of light. [urlhttps://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/[/url
We has all this with Bird Flu, Swine Flu, Spanish Flu, SARS, MERS, Ebola... All of which came to nothing. Wash your hands regularly, Keep calm and carry on.'"
You forgot about the Millennium Bug
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Coronavirus kills 5% of people that get it, with 15% of people getting critically ill. Most people will recover from it easy enough but it’s certainly more deadly than flu which kills 0.1% and isn’t comparable to a cold.
I hope Coronavirus isn’t used as an excuse for your poor travelling support, and in response to the OP, if SL is played in front of empty stadiums watching games will be the last of our worries, more pressing will be obtaining food, most of which is imported.'"
Worse ground in UK SuperLeague for away fans (Never been to Toronto).
Stood on an open Western Terrace with no cover from the elements.
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| Quote ="Redvee69"No we are really roughing it and going via warrington'"
Remember the last time you roughed it in warrington...
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| Quote ="sir adrian morley"Remember the last time you bokkled it in warrington...'"
I've fixed that for you.
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| We need to take Coronavirus very seriously. Plenty of fit young people have died from it, particularly health workers. I know three or four people who work for the NHS and don't want them put at risk. The self quarantining and basic hygiene advice is very important, but there will still be plenty of arrogant people thinking they are medical experts or too important to be affected and completely ignoring the advice and helping it to spread.
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| It's nothing to worry about on a daily basis tobacco the roads n mental health issues kill more people than corona.
The Spanish flu infected 500m globally and only killed 20-30m so far corona is bring massively exaggerated.
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| Flu kills somewhere between 10-30 thousand in the UK each year.
It's not just the Coronavirus that's a threat.
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| Hopefully it is all sorted out for my holidays in May.
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| I think what most governments are trying to do is slow down the spread of the virus. But by taking quite drastic isolation measures it may appear as though we are panicking over something that is similar to flu and only kills 2-3% of those infected. It needs to be successful however because;
1. It will allow time to develop, test and mass produce a vaccine which will save a lot of lives and control the spread of future outbreaks.
2. An unchecked spread of CV (and we now know its 5 times more infectious than flu) would lead to the NHS being swamped by those people who have a severe reaction to the virus. The NHS already has long (5 hr at my local hospital) waiting lists at A&E and simply couldn't cope with eg 1-200,000 extra (respiratory) patients over a short period of time. Again, a lot of people would die needlessly, routine operations will be cancelled, road accidents may wait long times to get an ambulance etc etc
3. A global pandemic would shut down industries and supply chains across the world and lead to a severe recession. Have a look at what stock markets are currently doing on BBC business (market data) in the face of extremely small numbers of people getting infected in the US and Europe (few hundreds).
Its not simply about our personal chances of infection and symptoms, the problem runs wider than that.
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| Quote ="Winslade's Offload"
Its not simply about our personal chances of infection and symptoms, the problem runs wider than that.
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This. Not only is it a more deadly and contagious version of the flu, it'll cause huge economic repercussions.
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| For all you peeps booking trips abroad - or if youve already made arrangements - make sure your travel insurance covers coronavirus, or more generally pandemics. Most basic policies don't.
I'm going though the travel insurance loop at the moment and am knack***ed from sorting it out. Taken all day......
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A bit more about RL and the virus;
https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/ne ... -outbreak/
"Players are being advised to avoid handshakes and signing autographs among other things to help contain the spread of coronavirus".
I don't think we need to worry too much about this one though atm
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A bit more about RL and the virus;
https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/ne ... -outbreak/
"Players are being advised to avoid handshakes and signing autographs among other things to help contain the spread of coronavirus".
I don't think we need to worry too much about this one though atm
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| Two confirmed cases now in Wigan
[urlhttps://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/news/18284145.two-cases-coronavirus-confirmed-wigan/[/url
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| We need to get a grip so far 3000 people have died from it...... 25k people a day die if starvation. The reason corona is in the news is because it affects the rich and starvation doesn't.
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| Quote ="Dezzies_right_hook"We need to get a grip so far 3000 people have died from it...... 25k people a day die if starvation. The reason corona is in the news is because it affects the rich and starvation doesn't.'"
I’m not sure Karen Carpenter would have agreed.
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"Flu kills somewhere between 10-30 thousand in the UK each year.
It's not just the Coronavirus that's a threat.'"
The frail and elderly in our society receive annual innoculations to protect them from influenza.
There is no treatment available yet that will combat Coronavirus.
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