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| He was overweight at Catalan, but was still the most effective player on the pitch in every Catalan game i watched and played long minutes.
Overweight does not always mean unfit, however on this occasion he looks to have piled a lot of weight on in a short space of time, i don`t see how that couldn`t effect his fitness.
With his off field antics, i would keep well away from him. Widnes scream desperate, so i wouldn't be surprised to see them in for him.
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| Was just going to say that Fat doesn't mean unfit, as he was the best player on the pitch at the KC a couple of years back, think he played with cracked ribs too and was still very good. Maybe he is a bit like Ricky Hatton in between fights, piles it on easy, but can lose it quick too if he applies himself
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"Was just going to say that Fat doesn't mean unfit, as he was the best player on the pitch at the KC a couple of years back, think he played with cracked ribs too and was still very good. Maybe he is a bit like Ricky Hatton in between fights, piles it on easy, but can lose it quick too if he applies himself'"
Those pictures were taken at what should've been the end of a long pre-season. I'm not sure he's capable of applying himself anymore, which could be why he's left Catalans & Toronto and no SL club has come in for him.
I thought he was awful at the game at the KC, didn't look bothered, although to be fair none of their team looked particularly bothered.
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| Quote ="DGM"Those pictures were taken at what should've been the end of a long pre-season. I'm not sure he's capable of applying himself anymore, which could be why he's left Catalans & Toronto and no SL club has come in for him.
I thought he was awful at the game at the KC, didn't look bothered, although to be fair none of their team looked particularly bothered.'"
I think if he only wanted 30-40k a year then clubs would snap him up and take the risk, but he will probably demand close to 100k which nobody will part with for a liability like he can be
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"I think if he only wanted 30-40k a year then clubs would snap him up and take the risk, but he will probably demand close to 100k which nobody will part with for a liability like he can be'"
Aye, and also takes up a spot on the quota, which at this point for most clubs would mean offloading an overseas player.
With the DR now gone from Salford and Leigh now taking an alternative approach to their recruitment he seems to have exhausted all avenues over here with regards to the money clubs that will take on any troubled player since he buggered it up with Catalan and Toronto. As previously mentioned, i wouldn't be surprised to see a desperate attempt to sign him from one of the clubs that seem to be struggling though.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"He was overweight at Catalan, but was still the most effective player on the pitch in every Catalan game i watched and played long minutes.
Overweight does not always mean unfit, however on this occasion he looks to have piled a lot of weight on in a short space of time, i don`t see how that couldn`t effect his fitness.
With his off field antics, i would keep well away from him. Widnes scream desperate, so i wouldn't be surprised to see them in for him.'"
Just looks like he's not maintained regular training to me. Only needs a short space of time to lose the musle.
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| Quote ="atomic"Just looks like he's not maintained regular training to me. Only needs a short space of time to lose the musle.'"
And a fair bit of ale and pie to develop such a gut in a short space of time. Looks to have been on the Jarrad Hickey diet.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"And a fair bit of ale and pie to develop such a gut in a short space of time. Looks to have been on the Jarrad Hickey diet.'"
As I said, a short period of time without regular training for guys who are use to training five days a week,will show within weeks.
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| I don't think any of you can deny that he is one of the best players in the world right now, regardless of the league he is playing in.
He's not even in bad shape.
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| Quote ="atomic"Just looks like he's not maintained regular training to me. Only needs a short space of time to lose the musle.'"
I work out and when I've had injuries and had to stop like when I hurt my back, it took about 2/3 months to lose some muscle and my BFP went up by about 5/7% during that time, but I'm not a regular drinker. Like you say if you've been doing it for a long time like Taylor has, if he applies himself he could get back in shape in a couple of months, like he did at Canberra. He wasn't as big when he went there though.
Saying all that hasn't he just done at least part of Toronto's Pre season just a couple of months ago? Wonder if he turned up looking like that and didn't bother.
Looking at him, he's not put weight on his face and got a big beer belly, speaks volumes what he's been up to imo.
Canberra got him probably in the best shape he's been in a few years but it didn't take long for him to absolutely pile it on.
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| Quote ="atomic"As I said, a short period of time without regular training for guys who are use to training five days a week,will show within weeks.'"
Indeed. A guy of Taylors size training hard every day will eat a mountain of food. If you stop training but dont cut the calories you will pile weight on very quickly. The weight wouldnt be a big concern for me if I was looking at signing him. Its only a spare tyre. Its his other problems that I would be more concerned about.
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| Quote ="Trinity18"I don't think any of you can deny that he is one of the best players in the world right now, regardless of the league he is playing in. '"
Yep he's probably one of the best players in the world, unfortunately for him there's about a couple of hundred who are better.
Quote ="Trinity18"He's not even in bad shape.'"
Are you Shallow Hal?
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| Quote ="atomic"As I said, a short period of time without regular training for guys who are use to training five days a week,will show within weeks.'"
...well...that's my excuse although the Mrs isn't buying it
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| Quote ="Trinity18"I don't think any of you can deny that he is one of the best players in the world right now, regardless of the league he is playing in. '"
Nah I certainly couldn't think of anyone either currently playing the game or even in years gone by that could lace his boots
You certainly know your stuff and IMO he should be inducted as the next immortal
What do you think?
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Are you judging his body shape on your own to come to that conclusion, or is it your wife trying to make you feel good?
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| One of the best players in the world LOL
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| Quote ="The Chin's Back"Nah I certainly couldn't think of anyone either currently playing the game or even in years gone by that could lace his boots
You certainly know your stuff and IMO he should be inducted as the next immortal
What do you think?
Are you judging his body shape on your own to come to that conclusion, or is it your wife trying to make you feel good?
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This. The dude must have been on some wind-up. Even as a self-confessed fan of his in his early days at the Broncos the Souths & to a lesser extent the Gold coast because the cracks were starting to appear there. I even then thought a change and a new League could see the making of him & was actually excited to see him in SL. But apart from the odd great performance that first year at Catalans how wrong was I. Like I said before personally the lifeline Canberra gave him and he seemed to get in a good place and shape for a bit, it was his last chance at the big time in the NRL imo.
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| Rumour i've heard is he wil replace Tom Symonds at Huddersfield, they are discussing a settlement deal due to Symonds' constant injury problems.
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| Quote ="Alan Cargill"Rumour i've heard is he wil replace Tom Symonds at Huddersfield, they are discussing a settlement deal due to Symonds' constant injury problems.'"
Wouldn`t be a bad move for Hudds to be fair, the culture/team spirit at the club with Broughy around surely cannot get much worse and they wont miss Symonds as he is never on the field anyway.
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| Taylor has the quality and potential to rip up Super League, but has repeatedly shown he doesn’t have the right attitude or professionalism. He’s certainly a big risk, if anyone does sign him I’d expect it to be a short term deal.
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| Taylor hasn't shown the ability to 'rip up' any competition for years. He was incredibly dynamic for such a big guy when he first started, but even then couldn't play more than about 10 minutes at a time, and he simply hasn't adjusted the way he tries to play to match the inevitable decline in athleticism. He's one of those players whose highlights reel makes coaches think he's worth the risk, when in fact he's been a fairly useless pudding for much of his career.
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| Bit like Tony Williams.
Both big puddings. Surely Hudders can't be interested in signing this waster?
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Bit like Tony Williams.
Both big puddings. Surely Hudders can't be interested in signing this waster?'"
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| Thankfully they've taken most of our wasters of our hands.
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