Ah course, I've never thought of redundancy in the context of sport. Gold star for you.

“For me, it’s the biggest prize (finishing top) without a doubt.”

Wake up Daryl

Do the winners of the LLS now get a place in the WCC at the end of the year as well?
So we're looking at a trophy, £100k and a place in an elite tournament. Not too bad I would say? Certainly nothing to be sniffed at.

Predictable mean-spirited bilge from fans of so called bigger clubs who although claim to be pleased for Cas they're actually a little mad that the days of giving clubs like Wakey & Cas a patronising pat on the head appear to be over.

Indeed

100k

A guaranteed home semi

A guaranteed WCC place

Silverware

Not bad for little old Cas who a decade ago were in the 2nd tier looking forward to Rochdale away.

Since the RFL reintroduced a prize for finishing top after the regular rounds it has gained a little more importance however it is still 3rd on the list of Trophey's imo. Being honest it's something every team wants to win but in reality are not that bothered if they don't, it's about being in contention for the big one. In that respect 2nd is just as good as 1st.

I think Powell has made a foolish comment and has managed to undermine his own team by doing so. I don't like the play off, I preferred the first past the post. However we signed up for this over twenty pigging years ago Daryl so come on get a grip it's not new.

Also does he not realise that if winning the LLS was more important then perhaps teams would have played differently over the season and Cas might not be where they are now.

Lost a bit of respect for the gut TBH.

Just a bit? Like a tiny bit or a big bit?

Ah yes, the league playoff final.

Can you confirm that was the same format from 1895 to 1972?

Are you suggesting that other teams may have not given their all throughout the season? Surely not.

If Cas win tonight I will be happy. If they win the GF it will be up there with Aus v GB in Melbourne in 92 for me.

It is typical isn't it, however it is a big thing finishing top after the regular rounds, it is just bigger to win the Grand Final....

I was their for that match and more great time what was that song at the end always look on the bright side of life while ever brit was trying to do the conga Happy Days

I remember you. You owe me a parnt.

Personally I think they should be the same thing. Players read/hear/see these articles/statements regardless of whether they're meant for them or not.

The bilge came from fans outside the "top 4" whose teams could not break the monopoly. My club won it 4 years on the trot and it was rammed down our throats that it was a Micky mouse trophy or the hub cap as it was later called.
Suddenly Warrington, Huddersfield and now Castleford have upgraded the value of this achievement, when in reality it has always been a measure of consistency, more so now because of its 30 game format.

Did Powell actually say he'd rather win the LLS than the GF though or just state that he thinks it's a greater achievement?

Complete billox, the harder the achievement the more prestigious the prize. Cas have been so good, the league doesn't lie, only the best team can win the league leaders shield. ANYONE can win a one off game. Whoever wins the grand final, cas is the best team in the league this season.

Ha ha! Thanks for that vasty. I'll be sure to let DP know.

If they don't win the accepted format to be champions (accepted by all teams) then they clearly aren't the best team over the WHOLE season. Sure Cas have played some oustanding rugby and played some of the very best we've seen for a while and consistantly so, however if you fall at the final hurdle just like many clubs have you simply aren't the best team as you aren't the champions as set by the rules.
Maybe you should tell all the teams and fans of championship winning sides in the past that won from a play-off system, you know the system that has more relevancy in RL from a numerical POV than does a simple league system to determine the champions.
iF Cas win, fair play to them, they'll be deserving, if they don't win, commiserations but you won't be champions, just a team that did fantastically well for much of the season but fell away at the crucial/important point.

Talking about a one off game is just patently silly, as per a league system one has to measure your effort and championships from such systems often come down to one off games to win it in any case, just ask any fans from any sport around the world from any era.
I could run off a dozen 'one -off' games to win championships in short fashion just from RL and soccer alone in the UK.

Powell is a fruit-loop to be talking like this and it undermines the mindset IMHO, it's a stupid mistake to come out and say it not least totally naive from his point of view.

When is parkside freddy gonna take off his mask?
You obviosly still feel far too insecure to come out of your lengthy hibernation due to the ridicule that you will receive should one of the regulars win the GF yet again and especially during SL's worst ever season of "Whipping Boy Garbage" ever seen outside of the only side showing any credibility in the Tigers

We've swept these sea's with you before Parkside Freddy,but you're only too aware of that hence your continued absence from these forums

Can we celebrate? Or do we need permission? We've been told all season that we ain't won anything yet - well we've one one of 'em and one left to go for. Job half done, bring on the semis.

It's entirely possible for the team who come top of the league to have lost every game against the other 3 top 4 clubs as long as they won all of the other games - that doesn't make them the best, it just means they were fairly consistent against the lower teams

It's also possible for the team who wins the grand final to have won more league games than the team who finish the top of the league.

In 2016 Hull had won the most games after 23 rounds, Warrington had won the most after 30 rounds and won the LLS, but Wigan won the most over 32 rounds and were crowned champions

Of course you can, the best way I find to celebrate a trophy win, is to post on Rlfans



Well done on the trophy win, whatever people think of it, it shows progress for your club, even if you don't win the GF.

Hopefully see you in the semi final

Spot on. If we had Wigana and Saints neck and neck away at the top of the table with Cas holding on for 4th spot would we be hearing how much more importance should be given to the LLS?

People can go on about how it's a bigger thing because it's the 1st time in Cas history or because of their points margin or way they've played......but at the end of the day it is EXACTLY the same achievement as when Leeds, Wigan and Saints have won it.

Also as you point out the hypocrisy, Anybody would think the big clubs don't hear every year how they only win things because the RFL want them to win or refs give them all the big decisions or it's the Final Sky want. As a Leeds fan I've heard more than my fair share from the likes of Cas and Wakey having a pop at our successes and in 2015 it was "a fix" just to send Sinfield and Peacock off as winners.