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| Quote ="GUBRATS"So really , you like the rest of us , =#FF0040RFL hasn't a clue'"
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| Thought I'd put a couple of Keighley Cougar v Toulouse game videos up for analysis and comments
Forum rules prohibit us from putting up links, so Google :
" toulouse olympique video channel " to find the summary 10 min version ; and if you're a die hard analyst the 2nd video with the full version.
Johnathon Ford and Greg White, servicing the left winger Kuni Minga were pulled from the field with 20 minutes to go, and the Bentley brothers were not playing. That's 4 international standard players out. The score sheet still ticked over.
One of the French players commented that they are at the business end of the season and need to take their game to the next level. Are they really that good ?
Can a 4th placed team/ iPro winners really be that bad, or was it that Toulouse were that good?
Are the likes of York, Rochdale and Doncaster going to stop them? What's your analysis of where they are at.
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| I would say they are better than Keighley. Whether they surrender against the likes of York and Rochdale is another matter.
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| Quote ="JonB95"So much ignorance in one post that I barely know where to start...
For the record they get bigger crowds than almost all Championship clubs despite currently playing in a temporary home outside of Toulouse. Their squad (which knocked the Championship leaders out of the Cup incidentally) is majority French and the team that beat Keighley had an average age of 23 too. They're only going to get better
Oh sorry of course it's all an RFL conspiracy, send them back, develop Cumbria instead etc, etc,'"
Yeah really pulling in the crowds a 1335 and a 738 so when they get promoted and start losing again they'll be down to less than 500 again and as for the squad they must and some multi passport holders so let's not get all giddy over them again let them grow and see were and if they are still in existence in 5 years
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| Quote ="jesus-is-coming"Yeah really pulling in the crowds a 1335 and a 738 so when they get promoted and start losing again they'll be down to less than 500 again and as for the squad they must and some multi passport holders
so let's not get all giddy over them again let them grow and see were and if they are still in existence in 5 years'"
Pray tell me which Championship clubs besides Leigh and Bradford (and Halifax on a good day) would draw more than 2,000 fans for games against Coventry and Doncaster? Toulouse's average crowd is higher than anyone else despite every game being a walkover.
As for the claim that Toulouse's squad isn't majority French, you'll have to provide evidence for that I'm afraid. It isn't true. This and the fact that you seem to think they will be out of existence in five years (you do realise this is an old club of great heritage and not a franchise, right?) shows that you know little of what you talk about.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"By avoiding areas where other sports are competitive, the London guise had to compete with the football giants of Arsenal, Tottenham, Chelsea and the union equivalents of London Irish, Saracens, Harlequins. We created a a South Wales Team against the hot bed of Welsh Rugby Union, Salford really struggle for support against the likes of Man Utd and Man City.
Currently there are no "elite" sporting teams in the North East and the Midlands a 5 year plan should have been put in place to get clubs to Championship Level, the North Wales development should have been RFL financed properly to assist the future backers.
The only positive out of the 20+ years with London is that we did eventually get some super league quality players from the capital area. Maybe the RFL want 20+ years in France, Canada etc whilst our own domestic product eventually becomes a feeder league to the NRL, maybe the RFL are happy of the possible outcome that 90% of the England international side will be anonymous in super league because they are playing 10,000 miles away.'"
So you'd turn down inward investment into the sport, and invest money the sport doesn't have into areas that don't really care?
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"So you'd turn down inward investment into the sport, and invest money the sport doesn't have into areas that don't really care?'"
Depends how you see the "areas that don't really care" perspective and the fact that the RFL haven't got a clue on fast tracking a development model into potential areas similar thoughts published by the welsh coach Clive Griffiths. The RFL only scratch the surface in marketing potential areas and offer no structure and expertise in a time scale to allow a new club to grow progressively.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Toulouse have already beaten Leigh Centurions and got to within 6 points of Wakefield before going down 40-22 at Wakefield.
Therefore Toulouse are already at the standard of the Middle 8s!
You sir, and your few fans, are a motley little group of insular, flat capped UKIP donkeys'"
They beat Leigh fare & square on their own turf in that there French France ....
How would they have done playing at Championship level for a full season ?
Maybe top 6 or 7 but not Middle 8's standard.
Let's [iNOT FORGET[/i that they are [iNOT[/i playing on a level field with [iALL[/i the other Championship 1 Clubs & are for all intents & purposes a Championship Club.
The situation will be exactly the same for the [iToronto Centurions[/i
[iRemember[/i also that Catalans had a [i6 YEAR DISPENSATION [/i gifted to them by the RFL, 3 years [iDirect Entry[/i to Super Dooper League followed by 3 Years Licence *which was always the RFL's plan*.
Your admiration of the French is .... well .... admirable .....
even if you are from Wakefield/Gateshead/Sheffield or wherever.
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"They beat Leigh fare & square on their own turf in that there French France ....
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"They beat Leigh fare & square on their own turf in that there French France ....
How would they have done playing at Championship level for a full season ?
Maybe top 6 or 7 but not Middle 8's standard.
Let's [iNOT FORGET[/i that they are [iNOT[/i playing on a level field with [iALL[/i the other Championship 1 Clubs & are for all intents & purposes a Championship Club.
The situation will be exactly the same for the [i[size=130Toronto Centurions[/size[/i
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It is the Toronto [size=120Wolfpack[/size.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"It is the Toronto [size=120Wolfpack[/size.'"
So far both the playing & coaching teams are mostly made up of Ex or soon to be Ex Leigh Centurions.
It is a play on words with a nice mix of sarcasm & humour ....
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"So far both the playing & coaching teams are mostly made up of Ex or soon to be Ex Leigh Centurions.
It is a play on words with a nice mix of sarcasm & humour ....
[i#GetWithTheProgrammeFella[/i'"
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"That was an incredible win against a 4th placed team. And to score 15 tries in the process. It could have been 90-6 had the Toulouse goal kicker been more accurate.'"
Should have been at least 90 - 6 as a perfectly good try was refused in the first minute
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| Quote ="Wildthing"[i#RichieBarnett[/i'"
Excellent!! Lest we forget
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| Quote ="supersuperfc"Excellent!! Lest we forget'"
Correct That will NEVER go away.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"[i#RichieBarnett[/i'"
Explain your drift if you don't mind Wildthing
Missing the in joke here.
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Quote ="Ste100Centurions"Explain your drift if you don't mind Wildthing
Missing the in joke here.'"
See here;
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=595869&start=50
The troll was well and truly trolled
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Quote ="Ste100Centurions"Explain your drift if you don't mind Wildthing
Missing the in joke here.'"
See here;
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=595869&start=50
The troll was well and truly trolled
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Ah, with you, I remember his post now.
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Ah, with you, I remember his post now.
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