leeds away, salford away, two examples of close games sandow got you the wins

I wouldn't mind some new faces in the GF but I've gone for Warrington v Castleford. Was impressed with Cas at the Magic Weekend both on the field and the terraces.

A brave call given Cas are currently 7 points adrift of the play offs and have lost more than they have won so far. Which of Wire/Catalans/Wigan are you predicting to drop out?

Any of the current top four could make it. Personally I'd like to see Warrington v Catalan.

If Leeds' post-CC form of recent seasons is owt to go by then it's far from impossible for one of those to be caught by an outsider. FWIW my tip for the GF is Wigan.

I find it hard (though not impossible) to believe that any any team from outside the current top four can make a serious challenge, however it's difficult to forecast just what order the current top four are going to finish in. Assuming they don't finish 1st and 4th or 2nd and 3rd it'll be a Wire v wigan final for me, but if we meet in the semi final then the winner to play Hull at Old Trafford.

As a Hull fan, I've gone for Warrington and Wigan.

I'm still waiting for us to slip up... I hope I'm still waiting at 8.00pm on the night of the 8th October!

You share the same mentality I've had in seasons past. Sadly, at 8pm on the night of the GF you begin to change your attitude to "maybe.. just maybe.." and it all goes Pete Tong.

I do wonder if Hull and Wire enter the Top 8's comfortably inside the top 4 if some of their fans will be asking for the points to be reset to zero like they were suggesting last year or won't they mind if 5th/6th place are about 6/8 points adrift?

Were we?

Isn't that what happens in the middle 8s? can you confirm that?

not me, also i doubt 99% of fellow fc fans were asking for points being reset to zero


now i did see on cas tigers fans forum that some of their fans are wanting points to be reset to zero

Yes



Yes and Leeds will be in that after a very poor season. At least we aren't being hypocritical when the format works in our favour

Maybe you didn't personally but 99%.....



Lots of complaining that the new system left you lot in 6th-8th places next to no chance of making the top 4.

ok 98% lol

just because we complained doesnt mean we wanted points resetting, some may have questioned it but most knew we were makimg the numbers up from the off

Have you just made that up?

"99%", "lots of complaining"? By whom exactly? I didn't see any. We didn't mind that as we didn't deserve to be in with a chance because we weren't good enough.

Complete twaddle, care to produce some sort of evidence that ANY Hull fan or even Warrington fan said this?
Resetting the points may have being mentioned in a very typical humerous comment but in no way shape or form would that be serious, even the most idiotic fan can see that that would be unfair beyond any comprehension. a completely seperate mini league/play off with teams from two different leagues of course has to have the points re-set.

resetting the points is ridiculous. you are in effect creating a separate competition. only way to do this would be to give a trophy out for league winners after the 1st 23 games then start again with the top 8. ain't gonna happen (even with the RFL)

What was the competion called when 1st place played 8th,2nd played 7th and so on.
Few years back but can vaguely remember it,either that or it was a dream.

The Big Four are so far ahead now that it is hard to see any of them being replaced by a club that finishes 5th, 6th, 7th, or 8th.

On another matter I find it strange that the voters from this forum have placed Catalans as the 4th most likely to end up at Old Trafford, despite the fact that Catalans are way ahead of Wigan on points for and against. Moreover Catalans still have a game against Wigan to play at Perpignan on July 2nd.

Totally agree with this. If you reset the points then teams that have grafted hard and are at the top are essentially punished for their hard work while teams at the bottom of the 8 will essentially be given a helping hand to compete with the top teams. Awarding the shield after the 23 is what I would propose so that teams wouldn't take their foot off the gas after they are secure in the 8.

yep it worked in the past but not now

That would be the Premiership you're thinking of. Although the format changed a couple of times over the years, this was just an end of season playoff with the only prize being a separate trophy. The League champions were the team that finished top after the regular season in those days.

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What I hadn't realised was that from 1907 to 1973, the championship was decided by a top-4 playoff - just like we have now, albeit with the extra nuance of the split after 23 games.

I challenge you to find a quote on this forum from a Hull fan stating what you have just suggested.

IIRC Lee Radford said something has to be done because teams in 7th & 8th had nothing to play for after the split. He was not exactly suggesting the points be reset but I wonder if he is still of the same opinion?