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| Quote ="UllFC"Most promising attendance is the Salford one in my opinion, usually when Salford draw a good crowd they put in a poor show...but today they got a win, and you'd hope those fans will return.'"
Yes it was v important to win. There was a lot of returning fans there yesterday so hopefully we can build on the attendance and result. Saints up next so we should be aiming for another 7k plus crowd. What was also important is to my knowledge there was no mass give away of free tickets so we should have healthy gate receipts to encourage the Dr and his mass investment. Healthy turn out from Wakefield too.
Good crowds in the championship with all but one in four figures which is also v promising.
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| Great attendance at Salford yesterday, with no free tickets given out. I believe the Wakefield club tweeted they had 800 fans at the game today, so you'd hope that when the likes of Wigan, Warrington, Leeds, St Helens etc visit we'll surpass the 8k and 9k barrier.
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| London V Salford in 2014 = ?,??? =#FF0000*STADIUM RECORD CROWD FOR CLUB*
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| Quote ="Stooper"London V Salford in 2014 = ?,??? =#FF0000*STADIUM RECORD CROWD FOR CLUB*
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Is it a realistic concern that the crowd for that game may not even need a comma.
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| This all goes to show that giving a meaning to the Championship clubs fixtures that the fans will come out and watch there team.
Will be nice to see Bradford down at Keighley next season.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"There has always been relegation from the Championship.
HTH'"
Correct, but not 38% of your total number of clubs normally
And obviously the massive financial incentive to a top 2 finish
But even though the ' hatch ' isnt open this year, it is now ' unlocked ' , and that alone has incentivised many former and new fans
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Very much so, essentially the difference between part time and full time and therefore the ability to compete against the parachute funded SL relegatees and next years SL bottom 4
Although what this will do with regards the competitiveness of the Championship next year we dont actually know yet, I doubt it will be pretty
Also I dont think it has been made clear how the funding will pan out from 2016 onwards
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Very much so, essentially the difference between part time and full time and therefore the ability to compete against the parachute funded SL relegatees and next years SL bottom 4
Although what this will do with regards the competitiveness of the Championship next year we dont actually know yet, I doubt it will be pretty
Also I dont think it has been made clear how the funding will pan out from 2016 onwards
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| Quote ="Starbug"Very much so, essentially the difference between part time and full time and therefore the ability to compete against the parachute funded SL relegatees and next years SL bottom 4
Although what this will do with regards the competitiveness of the Championship next year we dont actually know yet, I doubt it will be pretty
Also I dont think it has been made clear how the funding will pan out from 2016 onwards'"
The funding issue is one thing. The Cap is a totally different kettle of fish, because if you don't have the same cap across all 3 divisions, then you do not have a snowballs chance in hell of seeing a top 4 championship club with a 1 million cap beating a bottom 4 SL club with twice that to spend.....and beating them twice at that. Also, do you open the door for Championship clubs to have as many overseas imports as the SL clubs?
Fev's owner has said they are ready for SL......when he has to fund the clubs shortfall in income to get to the 2.5 million in income needed to spend to the 1 million cap, will he still think they are ready? Even worse, if he does fund this shortfall and they finish top of the Championship but then miss out on promotion, how keen is he going to be to repeat this procedure?
London have a full 1.85M + London weighting in their cap this year and they will get beaten 27 times........this BRAVE NEW WORLD is simply closing the door on promotion using finances to do so, but opening the one on relegation for badly managed SL clubs.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"The funding issue is one thing. The Cap is a totally different kettle of fish, because if you don't have the same cap across all 3 divisions, then you do not have a snowballs chance in hell of seeing a top 4 championship club with a 1 million cap beating a bottom 4 SL club with twice that to spend.....and beating them twice at that. Also, do you open the door for Championship clubs to have as many overseas imports as the SL clubs?
Fev's owner has said they are ready for SL......when he has to fund the clubs shortfall in income to get to the 2.5 million in income needed to spend to the 1 million cap, will he still think they are ready? Even worse, if he does fund this shortfall and they finish top of the Championship but then miss out on promotion, how keen is he going to be to repeat this procedure?
London have a full 1.85M + London weighting in their cap this year and they will get beaten 27 times........this BRAVE NEW WORLD is simply closing the door on promotion using finances to do so, but opening the one on relegation for badly managed SL clubs.'"
Oh believe me I am not all ' starry eyed ' at this new structure, unlike many other Championship clubs fans, I am fully aware of how difficult it could be and the consequences of it not happening how it has been sold
But hey ho, all we can do is watch and see what happens, it might even get me down to a game or two
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| Quote ="Starbug"But hey ho, all we can do is watch and see what happens, it might even get me down to a game or two'"
Attendances area key ingredient in being able to mount a sustainable assault on the top 8. That said, I suspect that if anyone does "step up" it will be 75% down to a SL club imploding and 25% down to the promoted club having a 7k+ average.
The real trick for the "wealthy" Championship club owners will be not "Buying talent" but instead, Holding on the stuff they develop. 5 year+ Contracts for all U18's.....and the ability to offer them a decent wage if they turn down offers from the top 12......
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| I know Wakey fans would probably not agree, but it's nice to see all those fans at Salford rewarded with a good close game and a win.
Nothing like a bit of excitement to get the crowds coming back. A good chance for Salford to get 2 wins under the belt early doors.
I agree with William that the crowd at Bradford will be a concern as opening days are usually bigger. But with all the shenanigans going on there it's not unsurprising that some fans will stay away. Just like a new stand and new players will increase crowds, board room debarcle will have an opposite effect. Fortunately with London coming soon Bradford have a chance at their next home game to turn it around.
Not sure what will happened for London.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Correct, but not 38% of your total number of clubs normally'" Well of course, that would be a mental set up.
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And obviously the massive financial incentive to a top 2 finish '" There has always been a massive incentive to finish top 2.
Quote But even though the ' hatch ' isnt open this year, it is now ' unlocked ' , and that alone has incentivised many former and new fans'" you are stretching .
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"I know Wakey fans would probably not agree, but it's nice to see all those fans at Salford rewarded with a good close game and a win.
Nothing like a bit of excitement to get the crowds coming back. A good chance for Salford to get 2 wins under the belt early doors.
I agree with William that the crowd at Bradford will be a concern as opening days are usually bigger. But with all the shenanigans going on there it's not unsurprising that some fans will stay away. Just like a new stand and new players will increase crowds, board room debarcle will have an opposite effect. Fortunately with London coming soon Bradford have a chance at their next home game to turn it around.
Not sure what will happened for London.'"
I think Wakey's second half performance and the addition of Sammut to their squad would encourage more people to turn out to watch them. Hopefully they can get their stadium fixed asap
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Well of course, that would be a mental set up.
There has always been a massive incentive to finish top 2.
you are stretching .'"
' Mental ' is what it is, especially only 2 seasons after that same number of clubs were promoted
You missed out ' Financial ' , so what was ' Massive ' about it recently?
No, I'm stating what has happened
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| Would be nice to keep the attendance thread related to attendances. Would also be nice for moderators to do their jobs and remove non attendance related posts!
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Would be nice to keep the attendance thread related to attendances.'"
Which attendances would you like to be served Sir? Just the positive attendances with lashings of positive record-breaking sauce which is up to 543% tastier than any Rugby Union attendance perhaps?
Quote ="JB Down Under"Would also be nice for moderators to do their jobs and remove non attendance related posts!'"
Or remove any attendance which doesn't present SL in a positive light? Have you applied to be a moderator yet?
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| Quote ="Mr Hicks"This all goes to show that giving a meaning to the Championship clubs fixtures that the fans will come out and watch there team.
Will be nice to see Bradford down at Keighley next season.'"
Assuming Keighley don't get relegated themselves of course - which is not beyond the bounds of possibility.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Would be nice to keep the attendance thread related to attendances. Would also be nice for moderators to do their jobs and remove non attendance related posts!'"
Agreed. I suspect that this year will see increases across the board with maybe 3 clubs showing drops......
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Agreed. I suspect that this year will see increases across the board with maybe 3 clubs showing drops......'"
Wakey will definitely be lower for a number of reasons including restricted capacity until Easter, end of cheap season tickets and off season mayhem. I'd be satisfied with a 6.5k average this year all things considered.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"Wakey will definitely be lower for a number of reasons including restricted capacity until Easter, end of cheap season tickets and off season mayhem. I'd be satisfied with a 6.5k average this year all things considered.'"
perhaps with the end of season games meaning more and a potential relegation battle, may boost end of season attendances?
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"perhaps with the end of season games meaning more and a potential relegation battle, may boost end of season attendances?'"
London's relegation battles started last week!
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| Quote ="gutterfax"London's relegation battles started last week!'"
I really feel for the London fans, and club. How can they be expected to attract fans when they know almost as a certanty that their team will get hammered every week.
Whats the record for points conceeded in a season?
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"I really feel for the London fans, and club. How can they be expected to attract fans when they know almost as a certanty that their team will get hammered every week.
Whats the record for points conceeded in a season?'"
Just from SL years Halifax conceded 1227 in 2003 from 28 games which is the most total points during the SL era, at an average of 43.8 per game.
However Workington conceded 1021 in 1996 but that was only a 22 game season so have the higher average of 46.4 per game.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Just from SL years Halifax conceded 1227 in 2003 from 28 games which is the most total points during the SL era, at an average of 43.8 per game.
However Workington conceded 1021 in 1996 but that was only a 22 game season so have the higher average of 46.4 per game.'"
How dare you answer this question. Questions regarding statistics (eg attendances, scores, cost of pies) fall within the remit of our friendly statistician Billy Eve. I trust you will apologise for stepping on his toes.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Just from SL years Halifax conceded 1227 in 2003 from 28 games which is the most total points during the SL era, at an average of 43.8 per game.
However Workington conceded 1021 in 1996 but that was only a 22 game season so have the higher average of 46.4 per game.'"
Well London are off to a healthy start if they want to beat either record
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