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| Quote ="vastman"And the other lying troll appears.
Perhaps if Hudds ever managed a crowd you'd be in a better position to comment. However as you weren't there your comment is typically irrelevant.
I was there, it was ugly but nothing worse than you's see any Saturday night around town where people are enjoying a beer. I realise crowds as big as ours are a mystery to you but basically you get that many people in one place some noisy oik will go to far. It was over in a minute or so and not vaguely comparable to football.
If you like we can ban away fans, we don't seem to need them these days - certainly don't need your pitiful contribution.
Finally, these RL fans who share your opinion - I'm chuffed for you I really am. However Ive spoken to a number of fans from other clubs who agree with me that Hudds fans are generally a vile bunch. So who's dad's bigger now you silly little boy.'"
oh hello stranger long time no see, in fact not since i last posted about anything in general that happen to include wakey .....which obviously makes me a troll according to you, sorry, didnt realise fans are only allowed to post on things regarding their own team.
And you do realise my post wasn't written personally for you dont you, more for the general rugby league fans who happen to read this topic so get off your high (anti-anything huddersfield) horse and accept that not everyone has the same pleasureable experience at Belle Vue as you have every time. .........and silly little boy ???? you've obviously never met me
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| Ban the culprits from ever attending a RL game
Simples
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| Quote ="Don Brennan"Wow, seems some Wakey fans find It all a bit of a laugh.
Twice now,their club needs to get serious.'"
Go on the wakey board mate, aside from one numpty all wakey fans are taking this seriously and are hoping that those involved are banned.
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| Wakey stewards don't help, when we went for the first game of the season me, my wife and two young grandkids were stood near some Rovers fans in fancy dress and they were loud, but funny and causing no harm at all when a gang of neanderthals in the guise of stewards came steaming over and got very aggressive with them, for no reason other than they were enjoying a laugh during the game. When one of them asked what the problem was he was ejected.
Totally uncalled for and potentially inflammatory.
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| Quote ="vastman"
You are one pathetic troll.'"
Classic!
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"Ban the culprits from ever attending a RL game
Simples'"
Banning them is only simple once the culprits have been identified. Then enforcing that ban is almost impossible.
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| Stewards are not security or police. Most of them are young kids, old men or women. We always say stewards should do something but they are Ill equipped to step in to a brawl. Clubs should have to have a hit squad of bouncers who can stand in an area where trouble may happen and keep the peace.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Stewards are not security or police. Most of them are young kids, old men or women. We always say stewards should do something but they are Ill equipped to step in to a brawl. Clubs should have to have a hit squad of bouncers who can stand in an area where trouble may happen and keep the peace.'"
well they do have "security" on their jackets as they are employed by Key Security - none of them are exceptionally old or young but some are women. Although I wouldn't mess with the woman I saw.
I was stood on the West side for a change but much further down the pitch so didn't seen anything except a rush of security folk. Its a bit of a shame, I brought someone to the game for the first time so first impressions were not good (notwithstanding that the quality of the game was poor too). I guess that's part of the problem with increasing crowds and becoming more popular, you will get a fair share of numpty's that jump on the bandwagon. We tried "segregation" for bigger games, maybe we will have to do it for all games now. Real shame and those involved in the trouble really should take a look in the mirror.
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| Quote ="bigalf"Classic!'"
You could try adding to the debate, if thats not beyond you.
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| Quote ="Him"Banning them is only simple once the culprits have been identified. Then enforcing that ban is almost impossible.'"
One or two will be identified, no doubt about that.
But they'll probably still get in, like you say its not that easy.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Stewards are not security or police. Most of them are young kids, old men or women. We always say stewards should do something but they are Ill equipped to step in to a brawl. Clubs should have to have a hit squad of bouncers who can stand in an area where trouble may happen and keep the peace.'"
I think that is exactly what they do. Despite the trolling of certain fans the incident was over in a few minutes - sadly it takes 2 seconds to punch someone in the nose and even the FBI couldn't stop that.
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| Quote ="vastman"I think that is exactly what they do. Despite the trolling of certain fans the incident was over in a few minutes - sadly it takes 2 seconds to punch someone in the nose and even the FBI couldn't stop that.'"
Sorry but "a few minutes" to a few seconds its a disgrace. They should be there to sort. Although these security firms do go for the "easy" option in who they employ
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| In actual fact there were four security guys stood around the small group ( guess about 100?) of widnes supporters well before any trouble started.
But if a few idiots are determined to have a go at each other it is very difficult to stop as things escalate very quickly
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| Quote ="rover49"Wakey stewards don't help, when we went for the first game of the season me, my wife and two young grandkids were stood near some Rovers fans in fancy dress and they were loud, but funny and causing no harm at all when a gang of neanderthals in the guise of stewards came steaming over and got very aggressive with them, for no reason other than they were enjoying a laugh during the game. When one of them asked what the problem was he was ejected.
Totally uncalled for and potentially inflammatory.'"
Had problems in the past with aggressive stewards at HKR when away fans were in the golf stand.
However, hope all involved get a ban from all RL stadiums. Don't want these people in any stadium causing problems.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Stewards are not security or police. Most of them are young kids, old men or women. We always say stewards should do something but they are Ill equipped to step in to a brawl. Clubs should have to have a hit squad of bouncers who can stand in an area where trouble may happen and keep the peace.'"
Good suggestion as long as Security Industry Association qualified its been done at some football clubs to good effect although it will cost as you'll need at least a dozen plus the stewards.
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| Quote ="asmadasa"Good suggestion as long as Security Industry Association qualified its been done at some football clubs to good effect although it will cost as you'll need at least a dozen plus the stewards.'"
At Leeds there is a separate squad who's job is to intervene when there's violence. They usually wear green jackets as opposed to the stewards orange. The stewards are just there to help people find their seat/a space and stop the gangways getting crowded.
I think the separate squad are directly employed by Leeds whereas the other stewards are contracted out to G4S.
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| Anyone remember a time when we actually had real policemen?
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| Quote ="Him"At Leeds there is a separate squad who's job is to intervene when there's violence. They usually wear green jackets as opposed to the stewards orange. The stewards are just there to help people find their seat/a space and stop the gangways getting crowded.
I think the separate squad are directly employed by Leeds whereas the other stewards are contracted out to G4S.'"
There is a similiar situation at Warrington. Stewards (employed by Warrington) wear yellow, "security" (contractor) wear orange. Go on the Warrington board after any trouble and you will often see comments about "aggressive stewards" when in fact its the security firm involved.....and then its often because they had to get involved.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Anyone remember a time when we actually had real policemen?'"
How wonderful that, in the majority, we can behave so that we don't need a visible police presence.
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| Quote ="Wadski"How wonderful that, in the majority, we can behave so that we don't need a visible police presence.'"
Agreed, but having a heavier police presence costs a lot more than having stewards.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Anyone remember a time when we actually had real policemen?'"
I do !
And I can also remember a real 'set to' under the stands at Elland Road for a CC semi final in the early 1980s when Wigan went onto win the game.
IIRC it was Wigan v York.
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| Quote ="vastman"One you have no mates.
Two shall we talk about the far worse violence sparked off by dirty spitting Cas fans earlier in the year at WR that required 30+ police offices to attend.
You are one pathetic troll.'"
So it's not just Other Sports that he pathetically trolls on then.....
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| Quote ="WireFanatic III"So it's not just Other Sports that he pathetically trolls on then.....'"
Suggesting Suarez moves on from Liverpool to play for a bigger club isn't trolling, it's telling the truth (especially as I'm neutral in club football).
What on earth that has to do with RL ill never know
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Must be easy to find out who they are! Come on Wakey fans do the decent thing.
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Must be easy to find out who they are! Come on Wakey fans do the decent thing.
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