Firstly, well done London, great result for you guys.
If it had been an olympic event, Wire would have been disqualified and sent home.
Have they bought the game into disrepute ?

Did you not see McMeekin, Krasniqui, Bolger, Dixon, Caro, O'Callaghan on the pitch last night (not forgetting Sargeson and Clubb who are injured). Does this not tend to indicate given they all have come through the youth programme that their may be a "solid footing" of RL in the south

What sort of crowds are other underperforming teams like Cas, Reds etc getting? What in your mind is the acceptable crowd?

And Lovell

6k is acceptable
8-10k is good
10k plus is great

That's what I think any top division prof RL club should be measured on.

Sub 3k has no place in a top flight competition IMO unless there is clear signs and plans of how it will be quickly grown.

This has the old - HRFC want to put the rent up lets say we are talking to Brentford etc etc and see if we can get the rent dropped.

Blimey, change the record.

Well done London, that's a great result last night and things seem to be moving the right way under Tony Rea.

Let's hope you find a ground-Brisbane Rd preferably in my opinion, but a proper 'home' and people will soon start watching a winning team, which you will get if you keep Tony Rea and keep spending the salary cap.

With the right ground, the right coach and the right marketing London could be a real success with 10k crowds and a competitive team.

Agreed, hope it happens.

They've got the team and coach now in my opinion.

Marketing and a ground and they won't be far off.

For the sake of a balanced argument, although you have never finished in a relgation place, it is also true that you never finished in a promotion place. So, if you can be elevated to SL on such terms, then you should also be able to be removed from SL even if you don't finish in a relgation spot. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Strictly speaking none of the SL1 teams were promoted into it, they were all foundation clubs invited to join a brand new league that had not existed before. Now some people may believe we should not have been invited to join, but that's a different argument, and people could decide to level it against any other SL foundation club, with different levels of justification of course.

Having my cake, and eating it, thank you very much.

Strictly speaking, you are wrong.

Long ago I accepted that SL will forever be lumbered with a nomadic London side forever languishing in the lower regions of the table and attracting crowds of 2,000. 20 years from now we'll be in the same situation as we are now and saying 'it could still work'.

How so? I am not aware that SL existed prior to it's first season, but I know we had the first division prior to and after the formation of SL as an entirely new league.

I wonder when Castleford will work.

I stand to be corrected, but IIRC the places in SL1 that weren't earmarked for London and PSG went to the top 10 teams in Division 1 (no favours to Workington, who weren't ready, got relegated after 1year and went bust) - which, incidentally, is yet another reason why the old Widnes fans' moan about you stealing their place in SL1 is wrong: they could have finished in the top 10 and qualified, but didn't even make the top 11 (Featherstone were 11th, I seem to recall)

They were 14th so never really going to be in a 12 team league.

Perhaps I am missing your point, but Wakefield and Castleford have earned there place in SL - they weren't "invited" to the party.

Oh I saw them and that's why I WANT there to be a London team. My point is though that OK clubs like Cas and Salford don't get big crowds but they have much bigger clubs less than half an hour down the road and have to fight for their fanbase (see Wigan Athletic in football). London is the Capital City, f*cking huge and the only club within miles. They should be getting far bigger crowds than they are and it's that reason that I base my opinions on.

Your work in schools is superb in getting kids to play, but why aren't they watching?

tony smith chose to send that squad down and it back fired bigstyle! a lot more different to having injured players out to resting players

I fuuly expect an announcement that will clear everything up at the HKR game

Excuse me for pointing out but my club 'Cas' got bigger crowds in the championship than London will ever get in Superleague.

London's poor crowds are relatively recent. There's been many a crowd over 6k, quite a few over 8k and even a few 10ks over the years. I was there on Friday and I also think that London are not being given enough credit for a fine performance. Maybe Wire were not 100% ( even for the side that took the field ) but London did not give them time to play. I also caught the Under 20s and it was nice to see some good performances from Broncos lads with clear London accents.

selective memory there..
1 over 10k...1 reported at over 12k which was a double header and there was nearer 2k watching the League match....2 x 9k attendances and 3 x 8k and 6 x 6k......that's from 122 home games

.......since we moved back to the stoop, here are the averages....
4,917
3,428
3,909
3,436
3,380
3,124
2,832
....44% down over 7 seasons. The club is being run by idiots...the move to another ground will change nothing.

London RL (not Bronco's )needs to be based in some area in the capital where there is little or no RU influence , forget Twickenham or other leafy suburbs...

The Skolars have worked their s off over the years establishing Youth RL in the Wood Green /Tottenham area successfully ,have still kept viable through the tough times and are now producing local grown talent that are no longer the whipping boys of Championship One ..

Why does the RFL not centre its efforts in London on the Skolars , put the costly overseas guys into local schools/clubs /community in their neck of the woods and give them all the support /backing that Broncos get the moment .....perfect opportunity for RL expansion , but hey its in a working class area so we dont want to know ..