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| Quote ="blackpoolwigan"Do ppl mean his offloads when they say his ball skills, cos if they do he is like a poor mans oversized Hock lol.
[i[uI have never seen him do anything another player cant do[/u[/i.'"
I have, and so have many other Wakefield fans. He displayed some fantastic skills at Wakefield. In his last season he played with all sorts of injuiries and helped keep us up.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Haven't seen much of him this season and he sure has added some bulk over the last few seasons.
But this guy, regardless of his size, is one of the most skillful RL players that we have had over here, tru genius !'"
Thats because he broke his leg pre season.
Solomona is naturally a big guy, with a 4 month period were training was virtually non existant due to his injury its inevitable he would put some weight on. The major difference is a guy like Solomona, in comparision to some of the people who watch the game (and no doubt contributing to this pointless thread) who are spherical, can shift that weight when they have the chance to.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"inevitable he would put some weight on. '"
Some?
He would put [i [size=150some[/size[/i weight on?
It looks like he's retired, sat around in a beater all day and lived from KFC megabuckets and mr kiplings cakes 24/7.
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| Quote ="Wilbred T Pricklepop"Since when was having ball skills and a few injury layoffs an excuse to become a fat ****?
Gareth hock is a forward with ball skills, and had 2 years out from the game, and believe it or not....he didn't become morbidly obese.'"
No he was a fully fit player capable of running a marathon and hitting the gym, go for a bike ride, swim the channel anything he wanted except play rugby for being a drug user. Unlike Solo who was just injured.
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| Quote ="miscreant"Did you see him scoring 3 tries against Wigan for the Bulls in that 2007 play-off game ?'"
Mark Calderwood scored 3 in the same game. Doesn't prove anything does it.
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| Quote ="Wilbred T Pricklepop"Since when was having ball skills and a few injury layoffs an excuse to become a fat ****?
Gareth hock is a forward with ball skills, and had 2 years out from the game, and believe it or not....he didn't become morbidly obese.'"
Comparing Sols ball Skills to Hocks destroys any argument you had. Also perhaps Hocks inability to use a knife and fork prohibits him from ingesting enough of the finer foods to allow weight gain. Let's not go into Hocks other activities that may promote weight loss.
If Sols biggest crime is the love of too many pies it still makes him ten times the human being Hock is.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"No he was a fully fit player capable of running a marathon and hitting the gym, go for a bike ride, swim the channel anything he wanted except play rugby for being a drug user. Unlike Solo who was just injured.'"
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| Quote ="vastman"
If Sols biggest crime is the love of too many pies it still makes him ten times the human being Hock is.'"
I don't see how you can comment on hock as a [ihuman being[/i
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"No he was a fully fit player capable of running a marathon and hitting the gym, go for a bike ride, swim the channel anything he wanted except play rugby for being a drug user. Unlike Solo who was just injured.'"
Again with this.
If you are not expending as much energy, you just eat less. Your body has a 'maintanence' level of calories, depending on your weight, bodytype, metabolism. I'd imagine that would be quite alot for solomona considering he's naturally thickset. He must have eaten like a total pig to put on weight like that.
I don't know why people are defending solomona unless you are overweight as well.
Guy's a professional sportsman and he's let himself get llike that, it's a joke.
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| Quote ="Cronus"He did indeed. He looked like an Olympic sprinter next to Solomona.
And I seem to recall that fat useless prop scoring against Saints in the last ever Knowsley Rd derby.
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| Quote ="Wilbred T Pricklepop"Again with this.
If you are not expending as much energy, you just eat less. Your body has a 'maintanence' level of calories, depending on your weight, bodytype, metabolism. I'd imagine that would be quite alot for solomona considering he's naturally thickset. He must have eaten like a total pig to put on weight like that.
I don't know why people are defending solomona unless you are overweight as well.
Guy's a professional sportsman and he's let himself get llike that, it's a joke.'"
Do you think any club wouldn't give their injured players strict diet advice? Do you think if that advice hadn't been heeded that the player concerened would be picked?
Having been in his company within the last 7 days and stood next to the guy, he is anything but fat. I think you have to appreciate the physical make up of someone like Solomona. I am defending him on the basis I reckon you have no grounds to say he has "eaten like a pig". I also reckon he would run rings around you in a fitness test
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| With some of the things being said on here I have to ask the question. Why is Amos Roberts not the size of solomona?
He had a few very long periods with leg problems. Along with all the surgeons trying to sort out his injuries I would suggest he spent a lot longer not being able to do normal physical activity than solomona.
This goes for every other player who has had a leg problem, Richard Owen for example. What about phil Bentham. Saw him on tv the other day, he looks no worse than before is leg broke.
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| Solomona is a naturally big guy anyway and the fact you're comparing backs to forwards just doesn't wash mate.
If Roberts went on a Wigan diet for 2 years he'd still blow over in a heavy wind.
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| Quote ="blackpoolwigan"Do ppl mean his offloads when they say his ball skills, cos if they do he is like a poor mans oversized Hock lol.
I have never seen him do anything another player cant do.'"
Have you ever visited the planet Earth?
You need a brain to be Solomona so he wins hands down.
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| Quote ="El Rey"Have you ever visited the planet Earth?
You need a brain to be Solomona so he wins hands down.'"
Disregarding the stupidity of your post, my point still stands, what exactly did Solomona do that makes him better than other players that can be named. I quoted Hock, but I rate Westwood over Solomona, as I do several other players from several different teams.
Im not saying that only a Wigan player is better than Solomona, Im saying that quite a few different teams have players that surpass him.
I get the feeling he was a good player once and some sentimentality is playing a part in some Wire fans heads.
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| Quote ="blackpoolwigan"Disregarding the stupidity of your post, my point still stands, what exactly did Solomona do that makes him better than other players that can be named. I quoted Hock, but I rate Westwood over Solomona, as I do several other players from several different teams.
Im not saying that only a Wigan player is better than Solomona, Im saying that quite a few different teams have players that surpass him.
I get the feeling he was a good player once and some sentimentality is playing a part in some Wire fans heads.'"
No one can dispute that there are several better back rowers than him in the league. However, you (absurdly) claimed that anyone can reproduce his offloading skills, which anyone who has watched him over the past ten years would certainly disagree with.
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| Quote ="blackpoolwigan"Disregarding the stupidity of your post, my point still stands, what exactly did Solomona do that makes him better than other players that can be named. I quoted Hock, but I rate Westwood over Solomona, as I do several other players from several different teams.
Im not saying that only a Wigan player is better than Solomona, Im saying that quite a few different teams have players that surpass him.
[uI get the feeling he was a good player once [/uand some sentimentality is playing a part in some Wire fans heads.'"
And you call me stupid
There you go again, you clearly know very little about RL and players or you are just fishing with your eyes closed.
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| Solomona is a class player. He looks overweight yes but I'll bet a pound to a penny that he could out run 99.9% of the posters on here.
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| He looked slimmer than he did in his Bulls days
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| his size adds to his ability to offload as he targets single tacklers and it is very hard for thenm to bothe wrap him and the ball up
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| He was the only Warrington player making consistent yardage against Salford...........and most of the time with 4 Salford players hanging off him.
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| I give up lol, so because he in better shape than posters on a website he is all good to go in super league?
And obviously Im missing something because his offloads look like other offloads that other players do to me, and according to people here they are another level.
And another thing.....ah never mind I cant be bothered having an opinion you get too much stick for it on subjects like this.
Solomona is as people suggest one of Wires greatest players.
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Quote ="blackpoolwigan"I give up lol, so because he in better shape than posters on a website he is all good to go in super league?
And obviously Im missing something because his offloads look like other offloads that other players do to me, and according to people here they are another level.
And another thing.....ah never mind I cant be bothered having an opinion you get too much stick for it on subjects like this.
Solomona is as people suggest one of Wires greatest players.'"
His offloads look like other players offloads do actually watch him play, he does things most wouldn't even think of.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgLpKeQ5 ... page#t=55s
Yea you see offloads like that every game
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Quote ="blackpoolwigan"I give up lol, so because he in better shape than posters on a website he is all good to go in super league?
And obviously Im missing something because his offloads look like other offloads that other players do to me, and according to people here they are another level.
And another thing.....ah never mind I cant be bothered having an opinion you get too much stick for it on subjects like this.
Solomona is as people suggest one of Wires greatest players.'"
His offloads look like other players offloads do actually watch him play, he does things most wouldn't even think of.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgLpKeQ5 ... page#t=55s
Yea you see offloads like that every game
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| He isn't Trevor Leota is he. For those that don't follow the other oval ball code this was a guy who's team gave him an official chaperone to stop him shovelling bargain buckets into his face before a massive Heinekien cup match.
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