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| Yes we have all seen the simplistic way the Aussies play the game and what is required to perform to the same or better level. It's not that simple though, the reading of the game at that speed, the physical attributes to play the game to match their athletes, the week to week competition to develop consistency, the talent pool to choose from and to put pressure on each other. Your simplistic view would suggest that any team should be able to beat anyone by just following simple principles...no, because athletic ability varies, motor skills, reading the game under pressure, strength and so many more variables.
Surely you don't think you're the only one to recognise the simplistic differences, and surely you don't think you could just tell all the obove in your post to the squad and coaches and them say "you're right, we never thought of that!"
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| The switch to summer and getting kids climatised to summer conditions will be a massive step in the right direction.
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| Quote ="littlerich"$1bn TV deal.
Country-wide exposure of the game, with TV companies fighting for coverage.
Compulsory schools curriculum'"
That would be great, for both the Nrl and Sl.
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| Quote ="mrpurfect"It is so frustraiting for me to read these forums , paper articals and coaches reaction when they don't see what is infront of their noses.
If you want to know why Australia are so good then watch what they do and what we don't.
Believe me you will be suprised how basic the skills and tactics Australia use that England don't.
But fans, coaches, jurno's alike only ever watch their team and miss the obvious.
Look at how much time and space Lockyer had to put in those perfect kicks because England had no kick pressure, but all you see is a gifted player that looks like hes playing in a dinner jacket.
Look how Australia had 3/4 players rushing through everytime competing for the ball with Tomkins because all the game England gave him no protection, but all you see is a England fullback unable to catch a ball.
Look how Australia had 2 players dedicated to rush out on the last tackle and charge down kicks, but all you see is poor England kicking game.
Look how when England put up bombs to Boyd and Australia had 2 players put on a block stopping England players getting to Boyd and look how poorly Boyd caught those balls, arms stretched and crouched down, if it wasn't for the cover he got he would have been nowhere near catching some of those balls.
look how Australia build down time into their game as they play one out football in their own half so when England do get stretched Australia step up a gear, the whole team move as one playmakers and runners and look how England try to play themselves out of trouble, building no downtime into their game and when Australia are on the ropes we move in threes and fours because some are resting while others are looking to pass the ball to nobody.
I could go on and on and on , you don't need a sports degree , you just need to play the game they way it's meant to be played and take the blinkers off.'"
You mean like how Wire play?
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| Quote ="mrpurfect"It is so frustraiting for me to read these forums , paper articals and coaches reaction when they don't see what is infront of their noses.
If you want to know why Australia are so good then watch what they do and what we don't.
Believe me you will be suprised how basic the skills and tactics Australia use that England don't.
But fans, coaches, jurno's alike only ever watch their team and miss the obvious.
Look at how much time and space Lockyer had to put in those perfect kicks because England had no kick pressure, but all you see is a gifted player that looks like hes playing in a dinner jacket.
Look how Australia had 3/4 players rushing through everytime competing for the ball with Tomkins because all the game England gave him no protection, but all you see is a England fullback unable to catch a ball.
Look how Australia had 2 players dedicated to rush out on the last tackle and charge down kicks, but all you see is poor England kicking game.
Look how when England put up bombs to Boyd and Australia had 2 players put on a block stopping England players getting to Boyd and look how poorly Boyd caught those balls, arms stretched and crouched down, if it wasn't for the cover he got he would have been nowhere near catching some of those balls.
look how Australia build down time into their game as they play one out football in their own half so when England do get stretched Australia step up a gear, the whole team move as one playmakers and runners and look how England try to play themselves out of trouble, building no downtime into their game and when Australia are on the ropes we move in threes and fours because some are resting while others are looking to pass the ball to nobody.
I could go on and on and on , you don't need a sports degree , you just need to play the game they way it's meant to be played and take the blinkers off.'"
If you don't think our players and coaches are aware of the above then you're incredinly naive.
Doing it against the best, is another matter.
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| Quote ="Seth"Yes we have all seen the simplistic way the Aussies play the game and what is required to perform to the same or better level. It's not that simple though, the reading of the game at that speed, the physical attributes to play the game to match their athletes, the week to week competition to develop consistency, the talent pool to choose from and to put pressure on each other. Your simplistic view would suggest that any team should be able to beat anyone by just following simple principles...no, because athletic ability varies, motor skills, reading the game under pressure, strength and so many more variables.
Surely you don't think you're the only one to recognise the simplistic differences, and surely you don't think you could just tell all the obove in your post to the squad and coaches and them say "you're right, we never thought of that!"'"
Thing is as well, with some of those things....let's take the kick pressure thing.
We have 2 players who shoot out to pressure lockyer, the rest of the defence has to be incredibly organised and alert. What if Lockyer, being the legend he is, steps one of the on rushers then commits the other and passes to thurston who has a gaping hole ahead of him?
Within 15 seconds thered be a try on the board. Pass pass pass TRY!
Let's say the kick pressure works. Australia immediatly adapt, they kick earlier in the tackle count, Or cam smith takes the next few kicks straight from dummy half where kick pressure is even more difficult.
Any tactic like that will have it consequences and australia would adapt instantaniously.
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| 1. Total rethink on the 'my club first' mentality. Centralised contracts for elite national training players, would sort out the cap issue of keeping hold of talent!
2. Switch the Junior Amateur game to a summer sport, no brainer for me this one, one reason antipodean junior development is ahead of ours has to be that they don't play/train in/on mud baths/astro turf.
3. Stop undervaluing and talking down our game as an internationally inferior product, believe.
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| I'm not naive everyone else is, there is such a thing as half time you know where changes can be made problems fixed.
People lack vision, only on reflection after the event do they see their errors.
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| Quote ="mrpurfect"I'm not naive everyone else is'"
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