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| Quote ="pyeman"I doubt he will have a good answer, in his world we all have a council that will build a stadium for us and if we dont its just becuase we cant be bothered, i wonder if widnes promised the rfl they wouldn't go into admin?'"
When exactly are you referring to?In 2008 the club had already come through administration so as has already been pointed out they couldn't promise the RL they would avoid something that had already happened.If you are referring to our application which was refused then yes,a cash bond of half a million pounds was offered as security, a promise if you will,which the RFL, in their infinite wisdom, declined.If you are referring to our succesful bid this year then it matters not as administration is no longer important so no promise necessary.
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| Quote ="pyeman"I doubt he will have a good answer, in his world we all have a council that will build a stadium for us and if we dont its just becuase we cant be bothered, i wonder if widnes promised the rfl they wouldn't go into admin?'"
i thought wakefild council was building a community stadium for the city?.
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| Quote ="j.c"i thought wakefild council was building a community stadium for the city?.'"
No, the council has refused to build a stadium for any of the 3 teams in the district, they have said they would provide land worth 2m to borrow against for cas and wakey (but not fev, which is wrong imho). The wakefield stadium is billed as stadium for the whole city, although as far as i am aware only trinity will be using it.
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| Quote ="pyeman"No, the council has refused to build a stadium for any of the 3 teams in the district, they have said they would provide land worth 2m to borrow against for cas and wakey (but not fev, which is wrong imho). [size=150[uThe wakefield stadium is billed as stadium for the whole city, although as far as i am aware only trinity will be using it[/u
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a letter of invitation was sent to all sporting clubs in the district as i recall, some chose to be involved others including cas chose not to.
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| Quote ="captaincaveman"a letter of invitation was sent to all sporting clubs in the district as i recall, some chose to be involved others including cas chose not to.'"
I wasnt having a dig mate just trying to clear things up for the poster i qouted, i'm just saying as far as i am aware only wakey will be using it, sorry if i'm wrong.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"I'll race ya.
For me, I can't wait for us both to be in new stadia, and the stuff the rest of the RFL world who want to merge and groundshare us. If I didn't hate you lot so much, you'd be my second team.
'" You will save money on a trophy cabinet cause lets face it none of you 2 will be winning anything
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| Quote ="king warrior"You will save money on a trophy cabinet cause lets face it none of you 2 will be winning anything'"
probably not, but a lot can happen in 3 years, which trophies were wigan and warrington winning 3 years ago?
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| Quote ="captaincaveman"icon_smile.gif probably not, but a lot can happen in 3 years, which trophies were wigan and warrington winning 3 years ago?'" Name the year one of them to clubs won a major trophy! NOT A NL1 ONE
I think you was still a twinkle in your dads eye when that happened
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| Quote ="pyeman"I wasnt having a dig mate just trying to clear things up for the poster i qouted, i'm just saying as far as i am aware only wakey will be using it, sorry if i'm wrong.'"
But you haven't cleared anything up , you suggested that Widnes were fortunate to have a council that was willing to build a stadium that they could use , and that your council won't build a stadium for you to use , which is not true , is it ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"But you haven't cleared anything up , you suggested that Widnes were fortunate to have a council that was willing to build a stadium that they could use , and that your council won't build a stadium for you to use , which is not true , is it ?'"
Well Wakefield council will not build even one stadium for all 3 clubs in the district to share, so all the other teams with council funded stadiums are very fortunate.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Well Wakefield council will not build even one stadium for all 3 clubs in the district to share, so all the other teams with council funded stadiums are very fortunate.'"
So Newmarket is a totally private venture ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"So Newmarket is a totally private venture ?'"
Grants are from Sport England I believe, WMDC has nothing to do with either stadium development.
The closest they have come to offering financial help is letting the clubs LOAN up to £2m from a bank with the money secured against council owned land.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Grants are from Sport England I believe, WMDC has nothing to do with either stadium development.
The closest they have come to offering financial help is letting the clubs LOAN up to £2m from a bank with the money secured against council owned land.'"
And yet it will be the Wakefield community stadium ?
Have they underwritten it ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"And yet it will be the Wakefield community stadium ?
Have they underwritten it ?'"
It will only be the Wakefield community stadium because it has community facilities and is (just) in Wakefield.
The council chose not to fund either project as it didn't want to get involved in paying for stadia which will be used by private companies.
In fact, when they offered a feasibility study for both sites for which one they would back (which Wakefield refused to take part in) all they were going to do IIRC was shift the other teams £2m land loan into the other project.
Glasshoughton is/was going to be a community stadium too because the club offered to put in facilities the council could use and take the profit from whilst being run by the club (like moving the swimming baths to the stadium site for example)...the council NEVER replied to the club.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"It will only be the Wakefield community stadium because it has community facilities and is (just) in Wakefield.
The council chose not to fund either project as it didn't want to get involved in paying for stadia which will be used by private companies.
In fact, when they offered a feasibility study for both sites for which one they would back (which Wakefield refused to take part in) all they were going to do IIRC was shift the other teams £2m land loan into the other project.
Glasshoughton is/was going to be a community stadium too because the club offered to put in facilities the council could use and take the profit from whilst being run by the club (like moving the swimming baths to the stadium site for example)...the council NEVER replied to the club.'"
Who has underwritten it ?
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| Quote ="captaincaveman"a letter of invitation was sent to all sporting clubs in the district as i recall, some chose to be involved others including cas chose not to.'"
We refused the feasibility study and we are the bad guys, its true because its been well documented on here and in the press.
Little details like this are just going against the flow and should be ignored.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Who has underwritten it ?'"
IA would be able to give you chapter and verse as he has done a lot of work on the project, but I believe it is the developers Yorcourt and their backers who have underwritten it.
Obviously, if you want to concrete over a large part of the County, then it makes sense to offer the council/locals something in return.....hence a new Community stadium! Could just as easily been a swimming pool, but given Wakey folks traditional views that water is the tool of the Devil, that would seem a bit of a none starter.Whether Wakey Council take on resposibility if/when it gets built I'm not sure. Wildcats, or AN Other would probably be the anchor tennants, and simply pay rent to the council, in much the same manner as the majority of their supporters.
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| Quote ="BillyRhino"IA would be able to give you chapter and verse as he has done a lot of work on the project, but I believe it is the developers Yorcourt and their backers who have underwritten it.
Obviously, if you want to concrete over a large part of the County, then it makes sense to offer the council/locals something in return.....hence a new Community stadium! Could just as easily been a swimming pool, but given Wakey folks traditional views that water is the tool of the Devil, that would seem a bit of a none starter.Whether Wakey Council take on resposibility if/when it gets built I'm not sure. Wildcats, or AN Other would probably be the anchor tennants, and simply=#FF0000 pay rent to the council, in much the same manner as the majority of their supporters.'"
So a council stadium , in much the same way as the LSV , the Stobart ,the keepmoat , Galpharm and KC
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| Yes, I cannot honestly see the developers wanting the hassle of running the place once they have finished putting up all the warehousing, so I would expect the council simply to say, Thank you very much, and pats on the back all round.
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| Quote ="BillyRhino":21z8m0unYes, I cannot honestly see the developers wanting the hassle of running the place once they have finished putting up all the warehousing, so I would expect the council simply to say, Thank you very much, and pats on the back all round.'" end up running and recieving rental from the Newmarket stadium , then the council have provided that stadium
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| would not pay too much attention to billy starbug, he is merely amusing himself with a bit of friendly banter.
its not going to be built or run by the council. it will be run and operated by the community trust.
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| Quote ="captaincaveman"would not pay too much attention to billy starbug, he is merely amusing himself with a bit of friendly banter.
its not going to be built or run by the council. it will be run and operated by the =#FF0000community trust.'"
So the council then
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| Quote ="Starbug"
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I could be wrong but i dont think the community trust has anything to do with the council, and iirc is listed as a charity.
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| Quote ="Starbug"
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No, a trust run by Sir Rodney Walker in the case of Wakefield.
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