Ok , 15 teams , everybody plays home and away , so 28 games worth 56 points

14 teams play at MM for points , so 7 teams get another 2 points each

1 team plays at MM for zero points as they are playing the NRL champions

So club X then has to play another game to be able to attain the same number of points as the other 14 teams

Team X cannot play another game because whoever they play then has played 30 games as they already play home and away 28 , and have also already played at MM

Is that clear enough ?

Wow!

Starbug, put the shovel down!

Not another who didn't pay attention at junior school ?

So, what's being said here is, SL to be expanded to 15 teams?
4 games on the saturday, 3 games on the sunday.
4 games on the sunday if the SL Champions play their WCC match last.
And, the SL Champions get a bye the first week? Then all the other teams have a bye for alternate weeks?
Or is now MM being proposed by you lot not to be the first week, but to be the second?
You are all going in circles.

Starbug
Do you agree that in a comp that has an uneven amount of teams in it, that every week a different team will take it in turn to have their bye week?
So if you do agree then how come you find it hard to envision that the bye week during the MM could fall to the reigning champions of SL thus enabling them to play in the WWC at the MM.

Senario:
SL week 1
Wigan v Leeds
Leeds v St's
Cas v Bradford
Wakefield v Warrington
Salford v Hudds
Hull FC v Quins
Hull KR v Catalans
Widnes BYE

Week 2 (MM)
St's v Widnes
Bradford v Leeds
Wakefield v Cas
Warrington v Hudds
Hull FC v Hull KR
Quins v Catalan
Salford v Crusaders
Wigan BYE (but will play NRL Champs for WWC as final game of MM)

Week 3
St's Bye

Week 4
Cas BYE

and so on

15 teams equals no MM , simple

For what reason?

Brenio

It doesn't work , think about it if you have a ' bye ' every team has 2 byes that requires an even number of games , MM is the odd game

Because it is the odd game , work it out

MM doesnt have to be an odd game, it could be a home game for some an away game for others and a "bye" for one team
bad idea to have the WCC at MM (and to have even more SL teams), but it is possible

Starbug
I see what your saying now.. forgot about having 2 byes.. if that is the case then just do what the NRL does and give 2 points for a bye.. simple

and if the MM is an odd game then a garanteed extra 2 points to the current SL champs (gives an added incentive to winning the grand final

Oh I worked out long ago what you were saying. I'm just amazed that you try to protract an argument for as long as possible by refusing to acknowledge the difference between two views even if its making you look a little bit silly.

Bollox you did , how does being right make me look silly , you posted about digging a hole , you thought I was wrong , you just haven't the balls to admit it

They have an even number of games , they don't have a MM type event

You're a funny onion, Mr Bug

How much more ridiculous do you want our game to become , two free points the following season

No , your sh.t at maths

But it IS an odd game , and as I put earlier you cannot have an odd number of games and an odd number of teams , simple as , don't pretend it's possible it isn't , you were wrong

Well with Tricky Dickie involved in our game anything is possible.. maybe in future we could play with a round ball and try and kick it into some sort of netting to score points.. you never know it may become a popular consept.

I'm not going to get involved in calling our gloriers leader tonight , I've plenty of ' previous ' at that , you ok with my maths now ?

it is an odd game, in a 15 team league it wouldnt be

that's the same as saying a 15 team league wont work because there are only 14 teams in it now, if you change the structure of the league you change the fixture structure, not difficult

So you were wrong , simple as , don't try going ' smokey ' on me , your not fit to wipe his a.se

Not as such 'wrong', he just didn't agree with what you want to hear- I think you need to learn that everyone has an opinion, not just you.

A different structure doesn't really make us a "ridicluous" does it? - take the most viewed domestic club sport in the world (American Football)...teams from the same division don't even play the same opposition each year as other teams in their own league- how fair is that? Are they seen as 'ridiculous'? - NO! its done so for entertainment, and as an handicap to give each team a fair crack at glory (likewise with the supposed salary cap in SuperLeague).....the viewing figures dont lie.

(O/T) Being Cas fan I've watched my club in our dated stadium (which I still feel creates one of the best atmospheres in SuperLeague) knowing that no matter (within reason) what happens on the field our Superleague future is on the line this year due to the surroundings of the field- is it fair to relegate established clubs who are not out of their depth in terms of on field performance in order to expand???- I presume you're thinking no (but does the RFL care?) so i'll continue:-

So why not have the WCC at the end of MM to generate a better spectacle of a weekend? and have it classing as a league match for the European team (as a side note)? - afterall the NRL champions wont be a pushover. Its no different to Castleford being drawn in last years Magic weekend against Catalans compared to Wakefield being drawn against Leeds (then Champions) really is it? It can then be billed as the magic weekend with the world title!

Just an idea...seeing as this is a forum- don't want any formulas Starbug saying how the points for, and points against wont calculate correctly when it comes to points difference.

Wow...