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| Quote ="dally messenger"2 leagues club vs none for the knights'"
Which 2 leagues clubs are behind the Central Coast Bears Dally?
1. Name them please.
2. Show evidence they said they'll back a "Central Coast Bears" team.
Thanks in advance.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"again your opinion. Neither you or I know exactly who the Reds will get on board as sponsors/owner and so until 2013 it is all guesses. I will bet (if you were a betting man) that the crowds for the two clubs will be within 2-3k of each other though.
How are the Bears League clubs performing, if like the rest of them then I certainly hope they are not banking on that as a strong income source.
re your comment about corporates from North Sydney, I am guessing this is why the other NRL clubs don't want them in, the Sydney market is already over saturated and yet another mouth to feed from the Sydney corporate world is hardly palatable. re stadium, as I said come 2013 the Reds will be playing out of a better stadium.'"
central coast will average 18,000 - 20,000
perth will average 12,000 - 15,000
the bears will have a full range of sponsors.
as i said before the bears will have far more sponsorship income than perth will have, theyll be a stronger club financially
not only cause of the bears name but also the central coast market.
remember JB you started this off mate.
the bears are a bulletproof bid.
and nths leagues club are making millions. and then theres the one in gosford too
dont forget the bears will have 2 massive derby games boosting their crowds, the games vs manly and newcastle
perth will have not have a single derby game, well except fremantle and West coast
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| where do you get the 18-20k from? Games in Gosford over the last 3 years have avg'd 13k (and that includes fans of the teams playing who travel up from Sydney or Newcastle). I think people are in for a shock re Bears crowds once the novelty has worn off. They have posted a number of sub 10k crowds at that ground in recent time inc one of just 6k in 2009.
I expect Reds will avg around 14-15k first year (depending on team) and Bears will be around 16-17k (avg boosted by travelling Sydney/Newcastle fans)
According to their Leagues club annual report they only made $500k profit in 2009 so not sure where you think all the pokie funding is going to come from?
The Bears are not a dead cert, they offer V little to the TV deal and the other clubs don't want them, and the NRL in the past has been very clear about wanting to keep Gosford for a Sydney relocation. As I said I think they will get in as there is no other viable alternative other than the Reds and they will want two teams.
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| Quote ="Rooster Booster"Which 2 leagues clubs are behind the Central Coast Bears Dally?
1. Name them please.
2. Show evidence they said they'll back a "Central Coast Bears" team.
Thanks in advance.'"
The Norths Club has 3 Leagues clubs (profit /loss made in 2009)
Norths (+$530k)
Berlo (-$184k)
Seagulls (+$159)
Hardly rolling in cash to fund an NRL team!
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"where do you get the 18-20k from? Games in Gosford over the last 3 years have avg'd 13k (and that includes fans of the teams playing who travel up from Sydney or Newcastle). I think people are in for a shock re Bears crowds once the novelty has worn off. They have posted a number of sub 10k crowds at that ground in recent time inc one of just 6k in 2009.
I expect Reds will avg around 14-15k first year (depending on team) and Bears will be around 16-17k (avg boosted by travelling Sydney/Newcastle fans)
According to their Leagues club annual report they only made $500k profit in 2009 so not sure where you think all the pokie funding is going to come from?
The Bears are not a dead cert, they offer V little to the TV deal and the other clubs don't want them, and the NRL in the past has been very clear about wanting to keep Gosford for a Sydney relocation. As I said I think they will get in as there is no other viable alternative other than the Reds and they will want two teams.'"
yes a home game for the roosters at gosford will get as many as a central coast bears side would
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"The Norths Club has 3 Leagues clubs (profit /loss made in 2009)
Norths (+$530k)
Berlo (-$184k)
Seagulls (+$159)
Hardly rolling in cash to fund an NRL team!'"
so that makes it 4 Leagues club behind the bears, not 2
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| where's the 4th? and doesn't matter how many you've got if there not making much money!
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"where's the 4th? and doesn't matter how many you've got if there not making much money!'"
you are forgetting the one in gosford sunshine
try and keep up
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maybe the reds can hold a chook raffle out the back as their "gambling" revenue
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| Quote ="dally messenger"yes a home game for the roosters at gosford will get as many as a central coast bears side would
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I certainly hope not or we should abandon the idea right now!
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"I certainly hope not or we should abandon the idea right now!'"
you used roosters games at gosford as a marker for what the bears will get sunshine.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"you are forgetting the one in gosford sunshine
try and keep up
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maybe the reds can hold a chook raffle out the back as their "gambling" revenue'"
is that actually owned by the Bears? It has no linkage at all to the CC Bears on its website (in fact only pro sporting promotion on it is the Mariners).
we won't need pokie funding, I am sure one of our multi billionaire companies will come to the party.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"you used roosters games at gosford as a marker for what the bears will get sunshine.'"
no I simply showed that there is no statistical evidence that the Bears will avg 20k and in fact that crowds in Gosford for RL games varied greatly from the good 20k for Wests to the absymal 6k for Roosters. There have been more sub 10k crowds than over 20k crowds at Gosford so your optimism of 20k avg's for Bears is based on no more than wishful thinking. I am guessing they will reach 20k around the same time Manly reach your quoted 30k avg
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"is that actually owned by the Bears? It has no linkage at all to the CC Bears on its website (in fact only pro sporting promotion on it is the Mariners).
we won't need pokie funding, I am sure one of our multi billionaire companies will come to the party.'"
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| Quote ="dally messenger"you are forgetting the one in gosford sunshine
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maybe the reds can hold a chook raffle out the back as their "gambling" revenue'"
Oh dear,
THe "Central Coast Leagues Club" at Gosford are a completely separate club and nothing to do with the existing bid whatsoever. They have not mentioned whether they will pay money to the team as yet. Once again, you presume without facts.
Seagulls Club in Tweed Heads (a sister club to North Sydney Leagues) give money to, you've guessed it, the Tweed Heads Seagulls playing in the QLD comp. Why on earth do you think they'll put in funds and show us where they have said they would?
By Berlo, I presume you mean the Burleigh Bears, once again, absolutely nothing to do with North Sydney Bears bar nicking the logo and they fund a team called, you've guessed it again, the Burleigh Bears in the QLD Cup.
And finally the Norths Leagues Club currently put around $400k+ into Norths RL. Do you think they have money to or will actually put funds into a Central Coast Bears team? If you think they will, show us something that says that.
Mate, sometimes you really should forget to type.
See you know nothing.
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| Quote ="Rooster Booster"Oh dear,
THe "Central Coast Leagues Club" at Gosford are a completely separate club and nothing to do with the existing bid whatsoever. They have not mentioned whether they will pay money to the team as yet. Once again, you presume without facts.
Seagulls Club in Tweed Heads (a sister club to North Sydney Leagues) give money to, you've guessed it, the Tweed Heads Seagulls playing in the QLD comp. Why on earth do you think they'll put in funds and show us where they have said they would?
By Berlo, I presume you mean the Burleigh Bears, once again, absolutely nothing to do with North Sydney Bears bar nicking the logo and they fund a team called, you've guessed it again, the Burleigh Bears in the QLD Cup.
And finally the Norths Leagues Club currently put around $400k+ into Norths RL. Do you think they have money to or will actually put funds into a Central Coast Bears team? If you think they will, show us something that says that.
Mate, sometimes you really should forget to type.
See you know nothing.'"
you used to support the bears when you had a job with them.
im guessing you no longer have this job now
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| way to avoid answering the question Dally!
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"way to avoid answering the question Dally!'"
hes got no idea, hes a pom
heck he was telling me once john kear and brian noble were as good at coaching as craig bellamy and wayne bennett
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| Don't the Bears have North Sydney Leagues as well as the CC leagues club backing them?
Also, isn't there a QLD Leagues club that backs the team?
I'm not sure anymore, but I can remember they had a few.
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| According to their own website Norths have 3 league clubs. I listed them in a previous post and how much they made/lost in 2009. Dally is just making 5h1t up again as usual.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"According to their own website Norths have 3 league clubs. I listed them in a previous post and how much they made/lost in 2009. Dally is just making 5h1t up again as usual.'"
you wanna bet that norths league will support the central coast bears nrl team?
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| Frick do I need to draw a picture, where's my crayons? Norths Leagues has 3 CLUBS. Combined they made a profit in 2009 of $500k. The Bears DO NOT have 4 Leagues clubs backing them, they will not get millions of $'s from Leagues clubs backing them and if the pokie tax keeps going up they probably won;t get anything. Do you understand now or shall i get the crayons out?
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Frick do I need to draw a picture, where's my crayons? Norths Leagues has 3 CLUBS. Combined they made a profit in 2009 of $500k. The Bears DO NOT have 4 Leagues clubs backing them, they will not get millions of $'s from Leagues clubs backing them and if the pokie tax keeps going up they probably won;t get anything. Do you understand now or shall i get the crayons out?'"
so the answer is no you dont wanna bet
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| I NEVER said they wouldn;t have 3 Leagues clubs backing them, in fact I was the one who named the three leagues clubs. If I recollect someone else was suggesting there is 4, hmmm now who could that be I wonder? Seeing as you've taken up betting want to bet they don't avg 20k?
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| JB where does it say the CC Bears bid have 3 leagues clubs backing them?
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| Quote ="dally messenger"you used to support the bears when you had a job with them.
im guessing you no longer have this job now
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Yep, you've been shown up once again and have nothing. Keep it up. You know I left the Bears, I've mentioned it on several occasions.
Balmain don't exist eh?
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