I think Salford are more at risk than Wakey,and as for the Crusaders i personally dont think they will be in business by 2012

Can't wait to bag myself a Stadé RL jersey then.

A collectors item fairly soon

The union versions are shocking. You would be

to buy one!

Pah, some people have no sense of fashion...

Nor will a lot of current clubs!!!!

Which one's do you reckon then? Come on - let's have yer list

All championship 1 that havn't already gone to the wall in the last couple of years

Most championship that havn't havn't already gone to the wall in the last couple of years with the exception of Fax Fev and possibly Batley

Followed by Bulls, HKR, Cas, Wakey, Crusaders, Salford and Hull.

The rest although probably trading illegaly will muddle on through.

The game is on a knife edge and if Sky pull the plug or lower the offer then.....................................

Interesting post Leaguefan , especially considering I have the ' Titanic ' on the TV behind me , ' rearranging deck chairs ' comes to mind

Hull? That club who finished 12th and still managed to post a profit?

You need to cheer up a bit mate.

Is this the club that considers it's players to be ' assets ' ?

Ah right, fair enough then.

Doomed I tell thee, we're all

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I don't think Sky will pull the plug. I think they'll offer the same amount in the next round of negotiations. I don't think ANY SL clubs will go to the wall - the franchise systems stops that from happenning because they've been vetted by a professional panel



I understand why you've predicted armageddon but hasn't the game always been "on the brink"? If we're talking debt and the precipice then "wendyball" must be on the verge of implosion by comparison. Sporting clubs always seem to survive/get bailed out by someone. Thank God it's a hobby for many a rich backer eh?

Nearly 40 replies for a wind-up! Nice work FrogRL....

You're 39 on the list



Anyway, isn't this the raison d'être of RLFANS.COM ?

If anything we need more (all) Yorkshire teams in super league. Then let the French, Welsh, London and the red rose county teams play in the national league one. We still get to meet each other in the challenge cup. However you can only be promoted to super league if your from Yorkshire.

It’d be great having two elite rugby league competitions.

I see what you did there



Actually - it looks like I was wrong and owe FrogRL an apology.

Seems that M. Larrat IS proposing a Stade Francais XIII for SL in 2012, possibly entering a team in the French Elite next year as preparation. There was very little detail given in the radio interview.

Quote ="Damo-Leeds"If anything we need more =#FF0000(all) Yorkshire teams in super league. Then let the French, Welsh, London and the red rose county teams play in the national league one. We still get to meet each other in the challenge cup. However you can only be promoted to super league if your from Yorkshire. It’d be great having two elite rugby league competitions.'" There you go Damo www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPjJFv1NDBg

Quote ="Damo-Leeds"If anything we need more =#FF0000(all) Yorkshire teams in super league. Then let the French, Welsh, London and the red rose county teams play in the national league one. We still get to meet each other in the challenge cup. However you can only be promoted to super league if your from Yorkshire. It’d be great having two elite rugby league competitions.'" There you go Damo www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPjJFv1NDBg

If it were true, could we really turn up the chance? We should ensure guarantees of investment for a minimum of say 6 years.

Stade were a poorly supported club in a city where the general perception was sport was a very low priority. But with investment and a fresh approach they took the Parisian style and flair image and made it their own.

They always had low crowds and took that to filling the Stade de France on numerous occassions, boosting the average at Stade Jean Bouin to over 10 000. No mean feat.

That kind of ingeniuity is what SL lacks in my opinion. Stade v Harlequins filled Stade de France with 80 000, unthinkable only a few years ago. Just as unthinkable as 50 000 in the Parc des Princes for Quins RL v Stade RL possibly???

So thats 10 million then

Technically speaking, there are no 'red rose county' teams left in SL.

Wigan - Greater Manchester
Saints - Merseyside
Salford - Greater Manchester
Warrington - Cheshire

Same is true for any major sport in 21st Century, they are all totally dependent on TV money. Sky, I'm sure, will negotiate hard, but there are not that many long-established sports with a solid, regular TV audience available, so I can't see them dropping SL. ESPN provides a little competition for the rights, and the BBC managed to pinch some live international coverage when the last round of rights came up, so there is reasonably healthy competition for rugby leage TV rights in the UK at the moment

Agree with all of the post (us agreeing twice in one week, who would have thought eh smokey) except for the last bit, a french sl would allow more elite french teams and also give us a much better chance of expanding to places like italy and germany in the long run. We may not get the chance to have a british sl full of teams from england, ireland, scotland and wales and a french league with teams from france, spain, italy and germany, but if we ever do we would be fools not to do so in my humble opinion. I would keep a joint playoff structure between the leagues so clubs from all the countries could play each other. Obviously this is long term thinking, at least 15 years in the future.

Why can't Cas, Wakey and Harlequins split off and form a second SL with Widnes, Halifax etc... ?

Because that idea is far too sensible , but it would mean a splitting of a % of the SKY money to fund it , and who would decide who goes where ?



We dont have 14 SL clubs , We dont have 10 if the truth be told