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| Quote ="Red & White"Fox scored 3/4 tries against the Welsh and French last year,and set up a try for Myler,but then got dropped for Calderwood in WC!!
Personally I think T Briscoe is rather fortunate to be in the team,but that's my opinion.'"
I think Fox was hugely unlucky to lose out to Calderwood last year but Briscoe is a real talent and I'm glad he has a chance to play against the best in the world
We have been saying for years we need to give youth a chance... let's hope Eastmond, Briscoe and Tomkins etc take the Aussies by surprise (and Burgess who has had more press but no game time agasint them)
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| Crabtree....we are in a bad way if he is in the team.
Not played for over a month, and pretty much useless when he does play.
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| Westwood deserves his place IMO, a solid worker who does the hard graft that we will need and doesn't back out of anythin, my main concern is our centres.
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| Quote ="Dunbar"I think Fox was hugely unlucky to lose out to Calderwood last year but Briscoe is a real talent and I'm glad he has a chance to play against the best in the world
We have been saying for years we need to give youth a chance... let's hope Eastmond, Briscoe and Tomkins etc take the Aussies by surprise (and Burgess who has had more press but no game time agasint them)'"
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| Quote ="Red & White"Fox scored 3/4 tries against the Welsh and French last year,and set up a try for Myler,but then got dropped for Calderwood in WC!!
Personally I think T Briscoe is rather fortunate to be in the team,but that's my opinion.'"
Have to agree, How the blooming heck is Briscoe in there before Fox?? I think Fox just needs to realise Smith doesn't like him and he will only get a game when a new coach comes in...
Before anyone says "But Briscoe's scoring record at the moment is immense" I agree however does he have the pace that Fox does?
I don't think so....
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| Quote ="Red & White"No,I hope the lad does well,but still think he's been fortunate tho
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he deserves his place. END OF>
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| Quote ="pmack17"Not sure I'm happy.
Cant see what everyone is raving about with Briscoe - young with potential yes but he has done absolutely nothing to date. IMO Fox would be a much better choice.
Happy that Tomkins is in as hes in a class of his own.
Dont like the fact that he has dropped Moore - big ask of Roby to play 80 minutes.
Think Crabtree will get smashed by the Aussie pack - would have preferred Carvell but only just.'"
I think we may see Eastmond coming on for Roby
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| Whats eveyone on about..Shenton wont face Inglis anyway
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| Quote ="Yorkshiretillidie"Have to agree, How the blooming heck is Briscoe in there before Fox?? I think Fox just needs to realise Smith doesn't like him and he will only get a game when a new coach comes in...
Before anyone says "But Briscoe's scoring record at the moment is immense" I agree however does he have the pace that Fox does?
I don't think so....'"
yes he does thats where you are wrong, and someone else mentions Tom is defensively more capable than Fox. all this Smith doesnt like him is tosh
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| Quote ="Yorkshiretillidie"Have to agree, How the blooming heck is Briscoe in there before Fox?? I think Fox just needs to realise Smith doesn't like him and he will only get a game when a new coach comes in...
Before anyone says "But Briscoe's scoring record at the moment is immense" I agree however does he have the pace that Fox does?
I don't think so....'"
He doesn't shake like a sh*tting dog under the high ball like Fox does either...
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| Quote ="Yorkshiretillidie"Have to agree, How the blooming heck is Briscoe in there before Fox?? I think Fox just needs to realise Smith doesn't like him and he will only get a game when a new coach comes in...
Before anyone says "But Briscoe's scoring record at the moment is immense" I agree however does he have the pace that Fox does?
I don't think so....'"
it could be something to do with foxs' form at the end of the season being poor, briscoe is one for the future, smith has noticed that, everyone wanted fresh younger players in the squad, briscoe has played more games than tomkins yet everyone screamed to have him in the squad, whilst not disagreeing he shouldn't be, my only concern with tomkins is his attitude when things don't go his way on the pitch, he can show petulance on the pitch
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| Quote ="Dico"Whats eveyone on about..Shenton wont face Inglis anyway'"
Correct, Shenton against Hodges and Smith against Inglis.
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| Quote ="HULLMAD"he deserves his place. END OF>'"
Ah right so we're not allowed our own opinions on here then?
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"He doesn't shake like a sh*tting dog under the high ball like Fox does either...'"
Woah Woah Woah, i'm not too sure about that, personally think catching a high ball is confidence thing, however, honestly do you really thing Briscoe is the best person for that postion at the moment?
if you're been honest with yourself you'd say no, and Fox deserves it imho.
But that is my opinion and you are entitled to yours too.
At the end of the day we all want England to win whoever is playing.
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| Tom Briscoe has done fine in the last 2 England games, but that was only against Wales and France. In my opinion, Fox deserves a place in the team because of how well he's played all year. A few poorer performances at the back end of the season haven't done him any favours, but he's played 28 games this year and been excellent in the vast majority of them.
The only reason Fox missed out on the World Cup is because Calderwood had a couple of good games in the 2008 playoffs. This year, Fox had a couple of poor games in the playoffs and has missed out on the 4 Nations. Harsh, in my opinion.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"He doesn't shake like a sh*tting dog under the high ball like Fox does either...'"
But he fluffed one against the French
But as I said previous,I actually hope the lad does ok.
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| Quote ="Red & White"Ah right so we're not allowed our own opinions on here then?
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thats why MY OPINION is that Tom Briscoe deserves his place, a forum is a place of opinion
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| Quote ="Yorkshiretillidie"Woah Woah Woah, i'm not too sure about that, personally think catching a high ball is confidence thing, however, honestly do you really thing Briscoe is the best person for that postion at the moment?
if you're been honest with yourself you'd say no, and Fox deserves it imho.
But that is my opinion and you are entitled to yours too.
At the end of the day we all want England to win whoever is playing.'"
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"Tom Briscoe has done fine in the last 2 England games, but that was only against Wales and France. In my opinion, Fox deserves a place in the team because of how well he's played all year. A few poorer performances at the back end of the season haven't done him any favours, but he's played 28 games this year and been excellent in the vast majority of them.
The only reason Fox missed out on the World Cup is because Calderwood had a couple of good games in the 2008 playoffs. This year, Fox had a couple of poor games in the playoffs and has missed out on the 4 Nations. Harsh, in my opinion.'"
Agree totally
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"Tom Briscoe has done fine in the last 2 England games, but that was only against Wales and France. In my opinion, Fox deserves a place in the team because of how well he's played all year. A few poorer performances at the back end of the season haven't done him any favours, but he's played 28 games this year and been excellent in the vast majority of them.
The only reason Fox missed out on the World Cup is because Calderwood had a couple of good games in the 2008 playoffs. This year, Fox had a couple of poor games in the playoffs and has missed out on the 4 Nations. Harsh, in my opinion.'"
no reason why he wont against the kangaroos, and as an earlier poster commented, its good to see youth getting a go, Tom is an exciting young prospect and its great to see him getting the chance to play against a team like Australia.
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| Quote ="HULLMAD"thats why MY OPINION is that Tom Briscoe deserves his place, a forum is a place of opinion
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When you answered me,you said that "he deserves his place END OF"
To me that infers that there is no other view but yours!!
In my opinion I think he's been rather fortunate to get a place in the team
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"Tom Briscoe has done fine in the last 2 England games, but that was only against Wales and France. In my opinion, Fox deserves a place in the team because of how well he's played all year. A few poorer performances at the back end of the season haven't done him any favours, but he's played 28 games this year and been excellent in the vast majority of them.
The only reason Fox missed out on the World Cup is because Calderwood had a couple of good games in the 2008 playoffs. This year, Fox had a couple of poor games in the playoffs and has missed out on the 4 Nations. Harsh, in my opinion.'"
again, fox only played against wales and france, and failed to impress against wales so what's the difference between briscoe and fox, both played against the same nations, yet the france team fox played agianst was much weaker than the one at the keepmoat
regardless who got picked, they are going to be up against it for 80minutes
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| Quote ="Red & White"When you answered me,you said that "he deserves his place END OF"
To me that infers that there is no other view but yours!!
In my opinion I think he's been rather fortunate to get a place in the team'"
yes that was MY OPINION that he deserves his place, and i aint arguing with you about difference of opinions
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| Quote ="HULLMAD"yes that was MY OPINION that he deserves his place, and i aint arguing with you about difference of opinions
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No as we're all entitled to them.Anyway the team has been picked so lets all hope that we can give the Aussies a decent game,or you never know,even win.
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