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| Quote ="Enicomb"Gilmour, a warning letter for retaliating; throwing punches because of a high tackle. Whilst Smith gets formal warning. Something wrong there....'"
It's his punishment for going to union. I'd also add electrodes, pliers and a bucket of piranhas.
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| [urlhttp://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=rleague/09/09/07/RUGBYL_Disciplinary.html[/url
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| I think there is a get-tough climate on sporting disciplinary boards. With that blood thing in RU, tapping up and diving in football and even sex tests in athletics, surely it's time for RL to regain the high ground?
So, JJB to be banned for the rest of the season and the others to be found not guilty.
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| How does Lulu plead guilty to an offence carrying a 1-4 match ban and get only fined? That makes no sense.
The others seem fair enough!
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| Quote ="Enicomb"Gilmour, a warning letter for retaliating; throwing punches because of a high tackle. Whilst Smith gets formal warning. Something wrong there....'"
Oh come on.........you can,t be that thick surely.
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| Quote ="Wadski"How does Lulu plead guilty to an offence carrying a 1-4 match ban and get only fined? That makes no sense.
The others seem fair enough!'"
I think you get -1 for pleading guilty and being a good boy previously. He's done both so is in credit by 1 for the next time he's up.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"100% correct, as i said on the saints board, Graham has now made himself a target for every prop with half the skill to have a pop at knowing it can get under his skin'"
Bit late on this one Smokey.....Graham has been targeted in every game this season, he must be getting use to it, because his metres gained has improved in the 2nd half of the season. He might have a sulk in the processes but he will still charge in regardless.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Bit late on this one Smokey.....Graham has been targeted in every game this season, he must be getting use to it, because his metres gained has improved in the 2nd half of the season. He might have a sulk in the processes but he will still charge in regardless.'"
Let's hope he can carry that form into the Four Nations.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Bit late on this one Smokey.....Graham has been targeted in every game this season, he must be getting use to it, because his metres gained has improved in the 2nd half of the season. He might have a sulk in the processes but he will still charge in regardless.'"
he clearly isnt getting used to it, hence his reaction friday + his actions in the last leeds saints game,
and he has shown a tendency to cower away when the going gets tough, a little like a few of the saints squad (leon pryce)
thats the big flaw in grahams game, ignore it if you want, but thats where he falls down, he is supposed to be a senior player now, your pack leader, and all he did was look for excuses
thats why id still take peacock or even Lauitiiti over him, whilst their stats may not be as impressive, its the performances they bring out in their colleagues that makes the difference, see Lauitiiti in the grand final for an example
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| I'm a bit old fasioned, a bit of biff and bash is part of the game.
You need someone on your side to give a bit back if the opposition starts to play rough.
Lets face it in the early years of Super League, we had Matautia and Nickle they were hardly angels so we can't claim any moral high ground.
IIRC there was an important game at Leeds that Saints were winning but Leeds were mounting a comeback and getting on a roll, they had an Aussie centre who looked odds on to score until Vila rattled him, it was a bad tackle but the ref missed it.
Leeds lost heart, that tackle turned the game.
Perhaps Graham needs to learn to get his retaliation in first
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"he clearly isnt getting used to it, hence his reaction friday + his actions in the last leeds saints game,'"
Like against Wigan this year.
Quote ="SmokeyTA"and he has shown a tendency to cower away when the going gets tough, a little like a few of the saints squad'"
Ditto
Quote ="SmokeyTA"thats the big flaw in grahams game, ignore it if you want, but thats where he falls down, he is supposed to be a senior player now, your pack leader, and all he did was look for excuses'"
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| JJB deserved a ban, even if Graham milked it, as for Senior - I suppose every punch thrown will now be punished in a similar way?
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| i'd say senior got his ban for his behaviour after the punch.all that "come on then" at half the saints team hardly did him any favours did it.he could have got more.incidently clint newton got 2 games for a chicken wing tackle,how does jjb only get 1.
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| Quote ="Asim"as for Senior - I suppose every punch thrown will now be punished in a similar way?'"
No, just the decent punches will be punished. So Lee Gilmour's safe (but Sean Long should think about getting some Cech-style headgear).
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Oh come on.........you can,t be that thick surely.'"
Not at all thick. Apparently you are.
Gilmour threw plenty of punches and got nothing but a warning, Senior got a match ban for throwing a single punch.
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| Quote ="Enicomb"Not at all thick. Apparently you are.
Gilmour threw plenty of punches and got nothing but a warning, Senior got a match ban for throwing a single punch.'"
Are you trying to say the RFL are biased towards St Helens?
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| Quote ="Enicomb"Not at all thick. Apparently you are.
Gilmour threw plenty of punches and got nothing but a warning, Senior got a match ban for throwing a single punch.'"
Where you the traffic warden in Dumber and Dumber.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"he clearly isnt getting used to it, hence his reaction friday + his actions in the last leeds saints game,
and he has shown a tendency to cower away when the going gets tough, a little like a few of the saints squad (leon pryce)
thats the big flaw in grahams game, ignore it if you want, but thats where he falls down, he is supposed to be a senior player now, your pack leader, and all he did was look for excuses
thats why id still take peacock or even Lauitiiti over him, whilst their stats may not be as impressive, its the performances they bring out in their colleagues that makes the difference, see Lauitiiti in the grand final for an example'"
Leeds game plan work to perfection on Friday. They clearly decided to rough Stains up and Graham in particular. A couple of things they went too far in hence the bans but I was surprised at the lack of heart of some of the Stains players.
Can you imagine the Andy Platts and Kevin Wards letting Leeds get away with what they did? They'd have given it back, then some - and shaken hands after the game.
Aus and NZ will try exactly the same thing to Graham in the 4 Nations now after watching that.
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| Quote ="Enicomb"Not at all thick. Apparently you are.
Gilmour threw plenty of punches and got nothing but a warning, Senior got a match ban for throwing a single punch.'"
I think it was obvious to anyone who saw that incident the aggression in Seniors action was totally unrequired on the field. He has been banned because of the entire incident he lost control.
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| Quote ="Wadski"I think it was obvious to anyone who saw that incident the aggression in Seniors action was totally unrequired on the field. He has been banned because of the entire incident he lost control.'"
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| Quote ="Wadski"I think it was obvious to anyone who saw that incident the aggression in Seniors action was totally unrequired on the field. He has been banned because of the entire incident he lost control.'"
Senior does show some mentally inadequate tendencies at times. They talk up Graham not showing respect and sportmanship.
But I think Senior last year, showed a total lack of respect for his England mates and was very unsporting in.....................
[size=150 Selling his World Cup Medal on Ebay [/size
Even the legends of our game said it was deplorable.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Senior does show some mentally inadequate tendencies at times. They talk up Graham not showing respect and sportmanship.
But I think Senior last year, showed a total lack of respect for his England mates and was very unsporting in.....................
[size=150Selling his World Cup Medal on Ebay [/size
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| Quote ="Wadski"I think it was obvious to anyone who saw that incident the aggression in Seniors action was totally unrequired on the field. He has been banned because of the entire incident he lost control.'"
Keith got banned because he decked Wilkin and then ignored the ref to offer any of the other Saints players some more.
Gilmour didn't get banned because he punches like a blind girl and couldn't even knock an unsuspecting Sean Long over.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"[size=150Selling his World Cup Medal on Ebay [/size
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But Schofield and Murphy will say anything's deplorable if the papers will give them £20.
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"Keith got banned because he decked Wilkin and then ignored the ref to offer any of the other Saints players some more.
Gilmour didn't get banned because he punches like a blind girl and couldn't even knock an unsuspecting Sean Long over.'"
Reminscent of Diogo vs Fabiano in La Liga a couple of years ago.
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