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| Quote ="deeHell"On what evidence have you seen so far to say that Cas will finish 4 places above Wakey?
Considering that Wakey are matching Cas for performances. Also consider that Wakey have had one the most horrendous injury list's in SL history.
Do you really think if you took, Sherwin, Chase, Hudson, Sargent, Huby, Shenton and Owen out of your team you would be performing as well as Wakey? Because that would be the equivalent to our performances considering everything.'"
If you read it again, CAS FAN clearly states in no particular order.
From what ive read, seen and heard cas are performing well at this time and FWIW they were playing good rugby last year, however didnt have the go-forward or good defence to get the results.
This year it seems they have improved tremendously in these areas. However as the "you will captiulate in 2nd half of the season" term has been applied to us wakey fans on numerous occasions. Who says cas will sustain these performances as they dont really have any form on sustaining results throughout the season (well apart from poor results(little joke )).
Good luck to cas in achieving the top 8, and hopefully we'll see both wakey and cas in the play off's at the end of the season.
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| Quote ="LewisJ23"Sometimes you can have too many of the same type of player on the pitch, you obviously haven't learned that from last year.'"
So to answer my question, if you had the players out I mentioned will you be performing as well as Wakey?
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| Quote ="mwildcats"If you read it again, CAS FAN clearly states in no particular order.
From what ive read, seen and heard cas are performing well at this time and FWIW they were playing good rugby last year, however didnt have the go-forward or good defence to get the results.
This year it seems they have improved tremendously in these areas. However as the "you will captiulate in 2nd half of the season" term has been applied to us wakey fans on numerous occasions. Who says cas will sustain these performances as they dont really have any form on sustaining results throughout the season (well apart from poor results(little joke
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Good luck to cas in achieving the top 8, and hopefully we'll see both wakey and cas in the play off's at the end of the season.'"
Fair enough it just looks that way with Leeds and Saints at top. FWIW here is my top 8, in no particular order
Wakey
Leeds
Saints
Wigan
Hull
Hull KR
Wires
Cas
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| Quote ="deeHell"So to answer my question, if you had the players out I mentioned will you be performing as well as Wakey?'"
Wakey are performing well at the minute (pained me to say that) if we had those players missing that you metioned then we possibly wouldn't be playing as well as you, no. So the question i ask Kear is why change a winning side when Rooney etc do come back ?
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| Quote ="deeHell"Fair enough it just looks that way with Leeds and Saints at top. FWIW here is my top 8, in no particular order
Wakey
Leeds
Saints
Wigan
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Hull KR
Wires
Cas'"
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| Quote ="LewisJ23" So the question i ask Kear is why change a winning side when Rooney etc do come back ?'"
Well players such as sculthorpe and henderson have come in is because bibey and stosic have picked up knee medial ligament injury's.
Brough and latu came back last week because obst and drew were injured by a hamstring and shoulder op respectively.
George and Murphy are back because dave halley has gone back to bradford and since martin is playing scrum half, cant revert back to centre to enable gleeson to go on the wing.
When these injured players come back, they will (once match fit by playing in reserve games) come in in-place of our youngsters with not alot of SL expierence to not burn them out. And it will allow us to play different teams depending on the strength and weakness of the opposistion.
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| Quote ="mwildcats"Well players such as sculthorpe and henderson have come in is because bibey and stosic have picked up knee medial ligament injury's.
Brough and latu came back last week because obst and drew were injured by a hamstring and shoulder op respectively.
George and Murphy are back because dave halley has gone back to bradford and since martin is playing scrum half, cant revert back to centre to enable gleeson to go on the wing.
When these injured players come back, they will (once match fit by playing in reserve games) come in in-place of our youngsters with not alot of SL expierence to not burn them out. And it will allow us to play different teams depending on the strength and weakness of the opposistion.'"
Wasn't that exactly what happened last year though ? And you went on a terrible run. Anyway i'm not bothered because in two weeks it'l be 1-0 to Cas in games
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| On topic apart from the obvious 1st & 2nd places any side could finish from 3rd to 12th, it really is that close. Im just happy once again my team are competing where we should be and with a great crop of youngsters we're going to get better before we get worse
Fancy a CC run though 2002 since we had any sort of run
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| Quote ="LewisJ23"Wasn't that exactly what happened last year though ? And you went on a terrible run. Anyway i'm not bothered because in two weeks it'l be 1-0 to Cas in games
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Sorry to drift o/t - ish last year kear brought in the injured big name players straight away without any warm-up games, dropping others, however once injured players come back they will have to earn the right in 1st team by playing well in reserves.
Anyway cas wont finish 4th, didnt say they couldnt.
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| They look a decent side but we were very poor last night and scored more tries than them. They will make the playoffs but top 4 is a bit much.
Top 4 imo will be (in any order):
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| Quote ="manu knighted"They look a decent side but we were very poor last night and scored more tries than them. They will make the playoffs but top 4 is a bit much.
Top 4 imo will be (in any order):
Leeds
Saints
Hull
Rovers'" You didn't play well because our pack were far superior to yours last night. Your pack had not been dominated so far this year from what other have said. They panicked a bit and ran out of idea's. Teams rarely play badly for no reason.
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| Quote ="Therailwayendisuponus."You didn't play well because our pack were far superior to yours last night. Your pack had not been dominated so far this year from what other have said. They panicked a bit and ran out of idea's. Teams rarely play badly for no reason.'"
Your pack was good but I wouldn't say we were dominated, it was pretty even. We gave ourself every opportunity to win (we outscored you 4 tries to 3) but we made bad decisions time and again. Perfect example was we should have taken the draw when we had it under the posts instead of going for glory.
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| Quote ="mwildcats"Sorry to drift o/t - ish last year kear brought in the injured big name players straight away without any warm-up games, dropping others, however once injured players come back they will have to earn the right in 1st team by playing well in reserves.
Anyway cas wont finish 4th, didnt say they couldnt.'"
I think the problem last year you had burnt out players in the team with players coming in who were still rusty or carrying injuries you need to avoid that this year or you will struggle at the end of season.
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| No chance.
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| Quote ="pyeman"I think the problem last year you had burnt out players in the team with players coming in who were still rusty or carrying injuries you need to avoid that this year or you will struggle at the end of season.'"
Would be no suprise TBH.
Anyway can Cas finish top 4. No i don't think they will but if i was a Cas fan i would be more than happy with the start and the fact that they have re-built a decent team.
Good luck to them.
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| Quote ="RB"No chance.'"
I love the way you backed up your opinion with well reasoned analysis...
(just for the record i dont think cas are gonna win the league, maybe the cup perhaps but after the last few years i will be happy with just being up near the top again).
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| As a Rovers fan Heed my words.
2 Years Ago i got all caught up in the faror after we were top of the league after 5 rounds (for one night admittadly) after beating Leads at home, We finished second bottom that year!!
Last year Just like Cas last night (and im not Gloating) we beat FC 3 of 4 times beat Saints at Home, Bradford at Home, Wigan Home and Away and Wire away, Still never got to the playoffs.
Its a long long season and when injuries really hit (Ask FC about last year and Wakey about now) thats when the real team comes to the fore.
Wait till round 13 until silly posts like this are madei think!!
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| Quote ="chukabutt"As a Rovers fan Heed my words.
Wait till round 13 until silly posts like this are madei think!!'"
As a Cas fan heed my words.
The person who started the thread is NOT a Cas fan.
Not a single solitary Cas fan in this thread has indicated that Cas are likely to make the top 4.
I think this needs clearing up because I'd hate for other clubs fans to think we're in Hull KR's league for arrogance and superciliousness.
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| Im not having a go at Cas fans in the slightest but what i am saying is that after 5/6 rounds you cant tell poop.
And please dont class all KR Fans with the same brush i openly admitted i got caught up with it all acouple of years back but now its one round at a time.
The league is so close now as ourselves and your good selves have proved already that anyone can beat anyone on their day.
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| Quote ="pyeman"I love the way you backed up your opinion with well reasoned analysis...
(just for the record i dont think cas are gonna win the league, maybe the cup perhaps but after the last few years i will be happy with just being up near the top again).'"
We'll see when you come up against a good side on form. I expect even Bradford to beat you next week.
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| In reply to the original post, they have as good chance as anyone else.
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| Quote ="espanyolswan"Bookies have Wire favourites to beat Hull KR tomorrow'"
You're joking, which bookie?
I'll have a few shekels on Hull KR, ta very much.
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| Top four?
Been there, done that; a fortnight ago. It's old hat nowicon_wink.gif
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