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| Quote ="CAS FAN"Smith's 2nd try was clearly offside and it was a really poor decision IMO.
Sky even showed it by mapping the position of the players with a line drawn down the screen. Mcguire's position circle was behind the line, whilst Smith's was on the line.
It was clear to see from the replay that Smith was ahead of the ball as it touched Mcguire's boot....well clear to all but Bentham any way.
It was a shame really as it was a great contest up until that point and was looking like a really tense finish with just a point in it. Sadly though that incorrect decision also decided the game.
The offside decision was one which was clearly evident (again to all but Bentham) from the video evidence available and no benefit of the doubt was required. Eastmond's try was not as you couldn't tell if the ball was touched and knocked on before being reclaimed or not. In that instance, benefit of the doubt should be given to the attacking player as the evidence just isn't there to deny the try.'"
I stupidly trusted my mates from dire to buy the tickets for us all for the GF and got stuck in the the east stand surrounded by thousands of rabid leeds fans. One in front of me who seemed to think that saints fans were pie eaters???
anyway, there were quite a few cas fans with leeds scarfs and hats on singing yarkshire, yarkshire. I thought you lot hated leeds?
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| Quote ="littlerich"Who gives a fook?'"
Well in case you hadn't noticed, they hit our shores quite soon !
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| Great game, great seats, heavy handed stewards.
Sam burgess manged incur the wrath of the stewards, never noticed if he actually got removed from the ground, but he was well hammered.
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| Alot of people seemed to get chucked out of the ground. An on-going problem on GF night.
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| Quote ="Wakey Wakey"Great game, great seats, heavy handed stewards.
Sam burgess manged incur the wrath of the stewards, never noticed if he actually got removed from the ground, but he was well hammered.'" and if he was causing trouble then rightly so!
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| Good game, don't agree with the VR decision for the last try but I think the better team won.
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| Quote ="HKRCraig"Alot of people seemed to get chucked out of the ground. An on-going problem on GF night.'"
One moronic Dewsbury fan near us seemed more interested in trying to cause a ruckus rather than watching the game itself. Starting having a go at people around him, then the stewards.
Needless to say, I never seen him after that. Hopefully he got what was coming to him.
A few Saints fans near me were bickering amongst themselves aswell, because one bloke took offence at another bloke constantly standing up all the time a few rows down and blocking his view.
The bloke in front of me started to stand and say something but I told him not to get involved. Not worth the hassle.
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| Quote ="WireFanatic II"
The bloke in front of me started to stand and say something but I told him not to get involved. Not worth the hassle.'" That seems to be the problem half the time, people can't just ignore things but feel they have to get involved. There was an incident a few blocks down from us where some Leeds and Saints fans ended up fighting (and about half a dozen ejected) but people further back in the block saw it happening and started singing anti leeds chants which aint exactly going to help the situation!
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Perhaps? But as we'd have been a point down with 10 to play there could have been a change in the outcome. The second drop goal may not have happened had the stupid decision not been given.'"
Maybe Saints will be able to test that theory next year.
Any idea when the open top bus parade will take place anyone?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"There was only one angle which showed his position relative to the ball and he was clearly in front on that. The one you are referring to didn't show Smith as he was obscured so there is no telling which frame it was.
I can't understand why they don't use maths to decide offside decisions. Freeze the play on the frame the ball leaves the foot, draw a line across from there and one along from where the receiving player is at that moment. Offside calls aren't subjective, they are black and white.
The fans could see the two lines and there would be no moaning and it would take about 10 seconds to decide rather than 3 minutes.'"
last night they froze the video numerous times and changed angles, thus showing a players position at the same time that something else happened. with the eastmond foot in touch they did it a few times to very good effect
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| Quote ="Bighead"last night they froze the video numerous times and changed angles, thus showing a players position at the same time that something else happened. with the eastmond foot in touch they did it a few times to very good effect'"
I thought that was an excellent use of the Video Replays. Flicking between one head on shot and another at the exact point that the incident deemed to have happened.
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| Quote ="gateaux"That seems to be the problem half the time, people can't just ignore things but feel they have to get involved. There was an incident a few blocks down from us where some Leeds and Saints fans ended up fighting (and about half a dozen ejected) but people further back in the block saw it happening and started singing anti leeds chants which aint exactly going to help the situation!'"
A few people get beered up, they can't handle how much they've had and they think they can take on anyone.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"I'm guessing that you use this forum to get rid of all your sarcasm, irony and general misery.
In real life you're a jolly fella with a sunny disposition.
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I expected nothing less from the Victor Meldrew of RLFANS. :^)
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"Of course this is the way the game is played and also the speed
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| Quote ="WireFanatic II"I expected nothing less from the Victor Meldrew of RLFANS. :^)'"
The question of the day is, Leaguefan...
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| Quote ="WireFanatic II"One moronic Dewsbury fan near us seemed more interested in trying to cause a ruckus rather than watching the game itself. Starting having a go at people around him, then the stewards.
Needless to say, I never seen him after that. Hopefully he got what was coming to him.'"
We saw him. At first i thought it was a Richmond rah-rah shirt he was wearing! . I was a bit drunk, mind. I hope the five-oh gave him a kicking outside.
Anyhow, it was only a matter of time, after being beaten fair and square the previous 2 years, that controversy would jump up and kick Sintellins in the chuff. What goes around (eventually) comes around.
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| Can anyone clarify why when Webb knocked Gardener into touch with his knees and gave away a penalty why "penalty try" was not given or even considered?
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| Had Webb not gone in with his knees, would Gardner have been certain to score? No. Ergo, no penalty try.
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| Quote ="Dally"Can anyone clarify why when Webb knocked Gardener into touch with his knees and gave away a penalty why "penalty try" was not given or even considered?'"
Because he wasn't denying a clear try-scoring opportunity. Look again and you will see that Hall had already dragged Gardner's legs over the touchline as Webb slid in.
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| If his legs were already in that's fine. Otherwise it was a bad decision.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"
I can't understand why they don't use maths to decide offside decisions. Freeze the play on the frame the ball leaves the foot, draw a line across from there and one along from where the receiving player is at that moment. Offside calls aren't subjective, they are black and white.
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Maybe becuase simple maths will not take account of the distortions caused by cameras?
Isn't that why they decided not to allow VR decisions on forward apsses?
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Maybe becuase simple maths will not take account of the distortions caused by cameras?
Isn't that why they decided not to allow VR decisions on forward apsses?'"
And Lee Smith actually has very flexible legs - whilst his body was infront, his feet were actually on our own 10m line.
This isn't obvious on a camera.
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| Quote ="SouthStanderDave"And Lee Smith actually has very flexible legs - whilst his body was infront, his feet were actually on our own 10m line.
This isn't obvious on a camera.'"
I know what you mean. I used to hate fighting him when he was that Indian bloke on Street Fighter.
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