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| Tbf to Wilkin he has played for Saints during a period when they would get decisions like that.
Should have gone to the VR, but in IMO it was an 80-20 call in England's favour.
Still, a chance for England to win a first RL World Cup, and for a team from these shores to win in a final since 1954 (taking nothing away from the table toppers of 1960 or the draw-win in 1972). A slim chance, but even so.
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| Quote ="Psychedelic Casual"If nobody can be mithered with this “farce” why can you not stop posting every time England play?
You’re a bobbins WUM and you know fine well you’ll be scriking next week if we can hand you a good hiding our kid!'"
Do speak English old chap!!!
I like to see if England can do their part to rejuvenate international RL, it appears not, lucky we have State of origin
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| Quote ="silver2"The question is whether or not it was a ball strip, not what happened afterwards. Anyway, the bottom line is that were in the final.'"
The ref didn't have to make a call, it was play on regardless.
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| Quote ="downo"Do speak English old chap!!!
I like to see if England can do their part to rejuvenate international RL, it appears not, lucky we have State of origin'"
International rugby league has been rejuvenated due to Australia not being able to produce enough players to fill a league therefore have had to draft in Pacific Islanders and Englishmen to make up the numbers but who have now become stars of the game so have made International RL more competitive than previously
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| Quote ="downo"Who is this Bruce chap you speak of Cletus???
Why in gods name would anyone watch that crap? its cricket season, i was at the pub having a little punt on the gee gees & lo & behold, the RL wasn't even on, everyone was watching the cricket, to tell you the truth son, there is very, very little interest in this farce
I just can't wait for it to end so there is no threat of injury & i can look forward to next season when the real footy starts'"
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| Quote ="Dally"Yes but Oz have improved more than us since that first game. Today we showed we can still blow a winning lead. Against Oz if we were to get to a winning position it's unlikely to be anywhere near 20 points given our predictable attack. I think Oz will take a lot of confidence from our performance today. Same old.'"
Erm, I believe England lead from the 10th minute to the final hooter so how did they blow a "winning lead"? It's knockout football so it doesn't matter how many they concede as long as they score more - which they did!
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| Quote ="caslad75"If that had have gone upstairs who thinks that would have been given?'"
I think an Aussie ref would have said loose carry (as Ceccin did), but an English ref would have given it as a strip. In SL, that would have been given as a try every time.
Thank Christ Ceccin didn't go to the screen, where Thaler would have awarded that.
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| Quote ="Roy Haggerty"I think an Aussie ref would have said loose carry (as Ceccin did), but an English ref would have given it as a strip. In SL, that would have been given as a try every time.
Thank Christ Ceccin didn't go to the screen, where Thaler would have awarded that.'"
Ask Wigan about that one.
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| Quote ="Roy Haggerty"I think an Aussie ref would have said loose carry (as Ceccin did), but an English ref would have given it as a strip. In SL, that would have been given as a try every time.
Thank Christ Ceccin didn't go to the screen, where Thaler would have awarded that.'"
It would have gone up as no try and Thaler would have an easier decision to make without evidence to overturn it.
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| Quote ="Seth"It would have gone up as no try and Thaler would have an easier decision to make without evidence to overturn it.'"
Well it's all yesterday's chip paper now. When it happened, my first reaction was it was a knock on, and I breathed for the first time in about 60 seconds. Then I saw it on the replay and offered several prayers to a God I don't believe in that Ceccin didn't go to the screen.
I was slightly disappointed with the English players' interviews afterwards. They were doing the faux confidence thing. What I expected to see was anger. If my amateur team had collapsed like that near the end of a match I was playing in, I would have been furious with myself, with my teammates. I'd have been kicking cats that we almost blew a 20-0 lead in ten minutes. I'll bet that Aussies wouldn't have been congratulating themselves in similar circumstances.
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| Quote ="downo"Do speak English old chap!!!
I like to see if England can do their part to rejuvenate international RL, it appears not, lucky we have State of origin'"
Yes the state of origin the most overrated competition ever very stale and boring now nothing like it was 20 years ago when you could call it something special
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| Isn't SoO a predominately one sided competition too? Why would you bother, same team has won it 11 times out of the last 12. You'd probably just watch the cricket and get the result 'on the news', like any sane daft condescending pr ick would.
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| wow!! thought we were home and hosed after the 70mins... very worried at the end!!!!
we were great the first 30mins, high completion rate and defence was on top but fell away abit from that and our kicking game leaves alot to be desired.
but we are in the final !!!!! that was the aim for me of this tournament .. at least we have a chance to win it now albeit very small
the travelling the team have had to do will be taking its toll now, one side of oz to the other and then auckland on top!
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| Quote ="Psychedelic Casual"International rugby league has been rejuvenated due to Australia not being able to produce enough players to fill a league therefore have had to draft in Pacific Islanders and Englishmen to make up the numbers but who have now become stars of the game so have made International RL more competitive than previously'"
A whole 5 Englishmen, And stars!!!!
As for being "drafted"
Half of these Islanders are actually Australian or New Zealanders, some even come from second & third generation Australian families
Unfortunately, i doubt you'll be seeing any of your englishmen again, they all seem rather settled & will more than likely live out their lives in an improved environment, a first world country
see what sport can do for you? it can improve your life immeasurably
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this "okker" thing you chaps keep mentioning??
Are you assured of your powers of geographical recognition? i think you might be trying to speak to us in Dutch? Flemish perhaps?
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Yes the state of origin the most overrated competition ever very stale and boring now nothing like it was 20 years ago when you could call it something special'"
ok, fair enough
It really would be more convenient if you just left us all to our overrated SOO & NRL & you can go on your merry way & play France & Tonga as a way of competition, that would suit me, it'd be interesting to see how you go
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| Quote ="downo"ok, fair enough
It really would be more convenient if you just left us all to our overrated SOO & NRL & you can go on your merry way & play France & Tonga as a way of competition, that would suit me, it'd be interesting to see how you go'"
Leave us to it then - don't watch don't post!
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| Wow, just wow !!
all those saying that last play 'should' have gone upstairs, why should it? the on field officials will only refer something if they aren't sure, clearly all the on field officials were happy with the decision, why refer it upstairs just for controversy's sake if they're happy??
I couldn't give a fig whether it could/would/should have been or not England are in the World Cup final and i am delighted !!!!
No one would care if we were 'hard done by'.
Get in the wall of white !!!
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| Quote ="downo"Who is this Bruce chap you speak of Cletus???
Why in gods name would anyone watch that crap? its cricket season, i was at the pub having a little punt on the gee gees & lo & behold, the RL wasn't even on, everyone was watching the cricket, to tell you the truth son, there is very, very little interest in this farce
I just can't wait for it to end so there is no threat of injury & i can look forward to next season when the real footy starts'"
WELL F*** O** THEN AND STOP COMMENTING
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| Quote ="downo"icon_lol.gif
A whole 5 Englishmen, And stars!!!!
As for being "drafted"
Half of these Islanders are actually Australian or New Zealanders, some even come from second & third generation Australian families
Unfortunately, i doubt you'll be seeing any of your englishmen again, they all seem rather settled & will more than likely live out their lives in an improved environment,[urla first world country with third world trolls[/url
see what sport can do for you? it can improve your life immeasurably'"
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| Don't get the argument over the decision at the end. Pulls at the arm, ball carriers responsibility and loose carry everyday of the week.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"It won't be the least bit intimidating to England.'"
[urlhttp://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-league/42121782[/url
Quote England captain Sean O'Loughlin: "It was an unreal game to be part of. The turnout and support has been great, even for us. They were supporting Tonga today but the reception they've given us has been fantastic."
England prop James Graham: "I've played in some massive games, some hostile atmospheres and some great crowds - the first game back at the new Wembley and all that - [urlbut never anything like this before[/url. They fought to the death and what a game to be a part of."
England prop Chris Hill: "The atmosphere was insane. Sometimes you couldn't hear the person stood next to you."'"
...you were saying?
Epic game and so glad I went up in the end.......there are about 60,000 Tongans in Auckland and half of them were at Mt Smart. The singing in the second half was amazing....let's hope that the Pacific Cup happens with the PI's and Kiwis playing more regularly.
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| Quote ="downo"ok, fair enough
It really would be more convenient if you just left us all to our overrated SOO & NRL & you can go on your merry way & play France & Tonga as a way of competition, that would suit me, it'd be interesting to see how you go'"
The NRL is robotic and the SOO is more one sided than the World Cup IMO of course
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| That was the best atmosphere i have ever been in, in my life absolutely fantastic, massive protest demo by Tongans in Aukland this afternoon thousands there. they are still great fans.
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| Quote ="Call Me God"[urlhttp://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-league/42121782[/url
...you were saying?
Epic game and so glad I went up in the end.......there are about 60,000 Tongans in Auckland and half of them were at Mt Smart. The singing in the second half was amazing....let's hope that the Pacific Cup happens with the PI's and Kiwis playing more regularly.'"
I don’t think they were intimidated, I think they enjoyed it.
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