Also 8,759 at huddersfield as opposed to the incorrect 7,200. Where are all of these false attendances coming from?

What about 2002

Good to see last years downward trend being reversed eh William?

William eve

This seems like a dis-infomation campaign.

Conspiracy theorist unite.

Is this revenge for the RFL putting out the statement on the opening weekend about RU and RL comparative viewing figures and crowds.

I've never known week after week such massive differences in actual and reported attendances.

The figure for Saints was less than half the true figure. Some one is being a very naughty boy.

still not a great crowd for the hudds v leeds game considering how close the two places are!

Huddersfield crowds are always poor when they don't play on Sundays

They're also poor when they do

Unlike Bradford bills fans who turn up in droves no matter...........lol

It is good news.

Last season's disastrous double digit percentage decrease required immediate action.

Thankfully, the failed franchising experiment will be read it's last rites at the end of this season.

Attendance figures will be very interesting to monitor next season with the new system in place.

[uSL Round 4 attendances - comparison to same fixtures last year
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Widnes V Salford in 2014 = 5,291
Widnes V Salford in 2013 = 5,562
% decrease = -4.87%

Huddersfield V Leeds in 2014 = 8,759
Huddersfield V Leeds in 2013 = 7,756
% increase = +12.93%

Hull V Bradford in 2014 = 11,307
Hull V Bradford in 2013 = 10,952
% increase = +3.24%

St Helens V Hull KR in 2014 = 11,818
St Helens V Hull KR in 2013 = 10,820
% increase = +9.22%

London V Warrington in 2014 = 1,377
London V Warrington in 2013 = 3,041 =#FF0000*AT GILLINGHAM*
% decrease = -54.72%

Wakefield V Catalans in 2014 = 4,190
Wakefield V Catalans in 2013 = 6,125
% decrease = -31.59%

Castleford V Wigan in 2014 = 8,504
Castleford V Wigan in 2013 = 7,852
% increase = +8.30%


Total Attendance in SL Round 4 = 51,246 (Avg: 7,321)
Total Attendance same fixtures last year = 52,108 (Avg: 7,444)
% decrease = -1.65%

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[uChampionship Round 4 attendances - comparison to same fixtures last year
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Batley V Doncaster in 2014 = 691
Batley V Doncaster in 2013 = 601
% increase = +14.98%

Barrow V Workington in 2014 = 1,512
Barrow V Workington in 2013 = 1,157
% increase = +30.68%

Dewsbury V Whitehaven in 2014 = 903
Dewsbury V Whitehaven in 2013 = 813
% increase = +11.07%

Featherstone V Rochdale in 2014 = 2,323
Featherstone V Rochdale in 2013 = N/A

Halifax V Sheffield in 2014 = 1,327
Halifax V Sheffield in 2013 = 1,553
% decrease = -14.55%

Keighley V Leigh in 2014 = 1,309
Keighley V Leigh in 2013 = 859
% increase = +52.39%

Swinton V Crusaders in 2014 = 587
Swinton V Crusaders in 2013 = N/A


Total Attendance for comparable games in Championship Round 4 = 5,742 (Avg: 1,14icon_cool.gif
Total Attendance same fixtures last year = 4,983 (Avg: 997)
% increase = +15.15%

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[uChampionship 1 Round 2 attendances - comparison to same fixtures last year
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Gateshead V Oxford in 2014 = 254
Gateshead V Oxford in 2013 = 121
% increase = +109.92%

Gloucestershire V South Wales in 2014 = 186
Gloucestershire V South Wales in 2013 = 113
% increase = +64.60%

Hunslet V York in 2014 = 409
Hunslet V York in 2013 = N/A (this fixture took place in the tier above in 2013, thus is not a fair comparison)

Oldham V Hemel in 2014 = 508
Oldham V Hemel in 2013 = 428
% increase = +18.69%

Total Attendance for comparable games in Championship 1 Round 2 = 948 (Avg: 316)
Total Attendance same fixtures last year = 662 (Avg: 221)
% increase = +42.99%


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[iTotal Attendance for comparable games in SL and Championships Round 4 = 57,936 (Avg: 3,862)
Total Attendance same fixtures last year = 57,753 (Avg: 3,850)
% increase = +0.31%[/i

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[uSL Attendances[/u

Round 1 - =#00BF008.52% increase
Round 2 - =#FF00000.28% decrease
Round 3 - =#00BF003.35% increase
Round 4 - =#FF00001.65% decrease

Total
[i2014 [/i- 225,022
[i2013 [/i- 218,604
% increase = +2.94%

[uChampionship Attendances[/u

Round 1 - =#00BF0039.67% increase
Round 2 - =#FF000011.41% decrease
Round 3 - =#00BF001.66% increase
Round 4 - =#00BF0015.15% increase

Total (for comparable fixtures only)
[i2014 [/i- 25,415
[i2013 [/i- 23,014
% increase = +10.43%

[uChampionship 1 Attendances[/u

Round 1 - =#00BF0039.25% increase
Round 2 - =#00BF0042.99% increase

Total (for comparable fixtures only)
[i2014 [/i- 1,841
[i2013 [/i- 1,304
% increase = +41.18%


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[i2014 [/i- 252,278
[i2013 [/i- 242,922
% increase = +3.85%[/size

Your attendance for Catalans V Leeds in Round 3 remains as questionable as it did last week.

Having said that, I don't believe Catalans home attendances are to be trusted anyhow. I had doubts about some of them last season.

Pleasing to note you've amended the dodgy Hull V Catalans attendance from Round 1 though.

Ultimately I have 2 dodgy attendances to choose from, thus chose the one that A) looked most likely from the crowd pictures, and B) came from the club itself. I would prefer a definitive figure of course.

Bit of context...

[uRound 4[/u
=#FF0000SL 2014: 51,246
SL 2013: 52,108 -1.65%
SL 2012: 55,960 -8.42%
SL 2011: 47,756 +7.31%
SL 2010: 53,974 -5.05%
SL 2009: 54,431 -5.85%

[uRounds 1 to 4 (27 fixtures)[/u
=#FF0000SL 2014: 222,822
SL 2013: 218,604 +1.93%
SL 2012: 238,204 - 6.46%
SL 2011: 229,532 -2.85%
SL 2010: 218,151 +2.14%
SL 2009: 216,637 +2.86%

Where is this official figure of 8,500 from the Catalans club itself? I agree that 6,300 is also equally unsatisfactory but every report I've seen from numerous sources is still quoting that particular attendance.

I'm not about to credit Catalans with 8,500 when the exact same attendance figure was also doing the rounds for the Bradford V London fixture the same weekend and we all know that was a load of bull.

I answered this on page 21 .

It was an unsatisfactory answer then and it remains so now.

You need to provide evidence for your 8,500 figure.

Where is that evidence?

Not a fan of this due to variables in the fixture list between the first 4 games each season.

Which variables? The weather? Kick off times/dates? Different stadia?

What type of comparison would you favour instead?

What is your alternative?

With the situation at London, Bradford and Wakey's stadium. i dont think the figures so far have been bad at all

You used to do equivalent fixture comparisons

e.g. Hudds v leeds 2014 = xxxx
hudds v leeds 2013 = xxxx

For example, within the first 4 rounds of 2011 it included millenium magic, which can skew the figures wghen comparing to normal weekly round games.

The figures I posted still compare the equivalent fixtures from last year, 2012, 2011, 2010 and 2009.

The only one's which differ are having to replace Widnes attendances with the equivalent Crusaders attendances from 2009 to 2011.

Here...
[uRound 1[/u
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SEASON = 2014 2013 2012 2011 2010 2009
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WIG V HUD 16240 19620 16771 19169 13619 11670
WAR V STS 13157 13381 15000 13024 13024 12075
HUL V CAT 10178 10065 10765 10739 11466 12482
BFD V CAS 8214 7724 10906 14348 8019 8971
HKR V LEE 11526 8122 8379 8673 8406 8623
SAL V WAK 7102 2327 2380 3213 3401 3151
WID V LON 5327 4870 5635 2259 1122 3009
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TOTAL = 71744 66109 69836 71425 59057 59981
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[uRound 2[/u
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SEASON = 2014 2013 2012 2011 2010 2009
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LEE V WAR 16164 15059 17120 17276 16733 13386
STS V HUL 13448 11257 14875 7053 12142 13684
LON V SAL 1246 2079 1517 1957 2395 2612
WAK V BFD 4049 8084 6934 6486 5381 6516
CAS V CAT 5104 5205 5005 4889 4209 5508
HUD V HKR 7180 5641 4962 6464 6304 6346
WIG V WID
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TOTAL = 47191 47325 50413 44125 47164 48052
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[uRound 3[/u
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SEASON = 2014 2013 2012 2011 2010 2009
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SAL V STS 6353 3248 5447 5929 5685 4808
CAT V LEE 6300 9465 10269 10688 8230 7913
HKR V CAS 7022 6489 7312 8936 8104 8104
WID V HUD 5577 5173 4644 3008 4127 1988
BFD V LON 5410 7148 10132 12354 7153 7813
WAR V HUL 10276 9387 10582 12036 10042 9170
WIG V WAK 11703 12152 13609 13095 14615 14377
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TOTAL = 52641 53062 61995 66046 57956 54173
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[uRound 4[/u
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SEASON = 2014 2013 2012 2011 2010 2009
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WID V SAL 5291 5562 5053 2576 2412 3009
HUD V LEE 8759 7756 9128 10428 10116 11593
HUL V BFD 11307 10952 11673 11346 14466 13412
STS V HKR 11818 10820 12435 7740 9458 11830
LON V WAR 1377 3041 2261 3842 3211 3206
WAK V CAT 4190 6125 7254 4561 5818 4807
CAS V WIG 8504 7852 8156 7263 8493 6574
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TOTAL = 51246 52108 55960 47756 53974 54431
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TOTAL = 222822 218604 238204 229352 218151 216637
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[uSL Round 5 attendances - comparison to same fixtures last year
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Leeds V Widnes in 2014 = 14,430
Leeds V Widnes in 2013 = 12,782
% increase = +12.89%

Salford V Warrington in 2014 = 6,260
Salford V Warrington in 2013 = 3,932
% increase = +59.21%

St Helens V Catalans in 2014 = 11,321
St Helens V Catalans in 2013 = 11,111
% increase = +1.89%

Wigan V Hull KR in 2014 = 12,801
Wigan V Hull KR in 2013 = 12,194
% increase = +4.98%

London V Wakefield in 2014 = 1,017
London V Wakefield in 2013 = 1,887
% decrease = -46.10%

Bradford V Huddersfield in 2014 = 6,781
Bradford V Huddersfield in 2013 = 8,348
% decrease = -18.77%

Castleford V Hull in 2014 = 9,867
Castleford V Hull in 2013 = 6,022
% increase = +63.85%


Total Attendance in SL Round 5 = 62,477 (Avg: 8,925)
Total Attendance same fixtures last year = 56,276 (Avg: 8,039)
% increase = +11.02%

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