Probably not, but then again they don't read your posts every day.

Wrong.

As an acquaintance of the esteemed Ian’s Lenagan, I can assure you that he is an avid reader of rugby league websites.

Once again you can't grasp the facts. SL don't want TWP - they openly said so but you just don't read anything up? SL are stuck with a ruling that they have to accept the winners of the Championship being promoted during this current SKY TV deal. To infer the SL chairmen "let them in" presumably on the basis they wanted them is just plain wrong. Top chairmen wrote articles saying they did not want TWP. They tried to change the format a year ago to block TWP. The current system of P & R was created by Wood and Solly of the RFL. NOT by SL.

As it stands now the next SKY deal will NOT INVOLVE THE RFL and therefore Superleague will be able to dictate the format and that means Hull, HKR, Leeds, Cas, Wakey, Salford, Wigan, Wire, Saints and Huddersfield will decide who is in the top division 2022 which may only be 10 clubs. So now you know who will have the biggest say over the next SKY deal, surely even you can work out the likely format? If you can't, read the opening sentence of this paragraph again and again until then centime drops.

Superleague wanted Toulouse to be promoted to Superleague in order to advance the French TV deal. With respect before you have a go at Elstone consider that TWP's promotion to SL, which SL clubs didn't want but could not stop, is what really put the kybosh on it. Think of it this way- a french TV company are showing Les Cats and along comes Toulouse - don't you think they would want both of these clubs and when a fake American club is promoted instead, they would be quite angry about that??

I live less than half a mile from Michael Carters dad Frank in Notton near Wakefield not sure though if that makes me an acquaintance of his, I don't know if he's an avid reader of anything so I can't give you the same assurances, as a matter of interest how long has this Lenagan fella lived in Chorley.

Websites are low numbers. Hull Daily Mail did a survey of a very large number of RL fans and 80% didn't want Toronto. I have no such survey for Catalan. Neither club is a member club anyway so they are only here as guests. Perez realised this and therefore bought Hemel Stags membership for Ottowa. He knows TWP and Les Cats are likely to go if Superleague drops to 10 on the next smaller SKY deal, so he's trying to ensure Ottawa don't get booted out as "guests" not that Ottawa exist yet.

Not being funny here Donny,but you need to grasp that JEAN is just a fake, who lives in Stralia,and couldn't give two hoots really, who is just trolling and a WUM to get a reaction.

The Catalans put 12 English and antipodeans into their first choice 1-17 players. That is after 14 years of French player professional development. Mate, I love them but I love the facts more. As for TWP even the TWP clubs coach and chairman will tell you they don't find a paying TV deal difficult....They admitted it was impossible.

We can be as sentimental as we want but sadly Les Catalans aren't now providing TV money which is the fault of TWP. Had Toulouse gone up the French TV deal may have gone up. TWP have spoiled matters for France so expect for 2022 if SL drops to 10 English clubs only, they will likely sign what few quality French players Catalans have left then.

I understand this and I understand Steph may be the same poster.

But I don't like the approach of just getting nasty and insulting with him, which I am sure is what he wants? Better to reply to his posts with the actual facts of the matter he/she may raise.

Quite,but he/she will still ignore your facts.

Let me put it this way, their posts are good vehicles for demonstrating to others on here their nonsensical soundbites lack substance, and the actual truth is something else more substantial and realistic. Let's face it some of the rubbish they spout has actually appeared in the RL Press. Both Editors of the Monday RL Rags predict North America is the future and so do Jean and Steph.

OH hang on

Your quite right Cokey, they (stephie and jeannie)will deliberately refuse to recognise, and ignore his facts, while at the same time fail to offer anything credible by way of an alternative.

Sorry to have to inform you of this, but your logic is as bad as your spelling and grammar.

Why is that mon ami/comrade, did my post get lost in translation?, or are you just being slightly over zealous in your position as the self appointed chief of the rlfans grammar police.

You'd be surprised at how nasty and insulting the troll can be once it's been shown up for what it is, eh Jean

Jean Douche craves attention but brings nothing to the table that warrants it sadly he will derive some weird satisfaction on each and every response to his ill informed comments, even this one, no doubt he will be sitting at his keyboard in his 'lemon' stained underwear and salivating at another reaction to him. My first and last response to the waste of space Jean Douche the only way to get rid of him is to ignore deny him the satisfaction of the response he craves.

Hey Rick. Come clean young newbie. Do you support Wakefield, Salford or Leigh?

Ignoring his nonsense only works for the posts that are not quoted. If you rise to his very obvious bait then please stop quoting him.

Yes indeed, you are correct - I will not quote him let alone reply to him as it appears if you make any reply at all, even a series of of insults, it somehow satisfies him or her?

Self moderation ruling the day? Good stuff

Back on track and under self moderation Gents?? Nigel Wood let them in without asking Superleague if that was OK. Wood had a new job lined up at the RLIF so he was never going to be the one to say "no" which would have ruined his "Internationalist" credentials. Superleague stood by and said nothing at all, probably thinking it would never be a problem for them. However the removal of salary cap restrictions below Superleague allowed TWP to buy their way to the top.

What the RFL/Wood did with the ridiculous league system and the raising of the cap was to stuff Leigh and their owner in favour of a fantasy. However please let's not shoot Nigel as he looks to be making amends by supporting Bradford's revival. In a couple of years we may have Bradford, Widnes and Leigh pushing for SL places under the new deal with the ridiculous American dream episode behind us.

I wonder if Jean used Tripadvisor, before he flew to Kiev ?

Crucial for the future of the game this deal, but sadly cant see anyone but SKY being interested and that of course means a lower price and I think we need at least a few games with another broadcaster to spark some different interest.

Have said for years that teams should be banned from playing while a TV game is on to maximise viewing figures.

Do HullKR really need to face Wakefield on a Friday night at the same time as the Saints-Salford grand final rematch in round1 for example? Other weeks its even worse with 4 or 5 games going on while the TV game is on.

No, I don’t need Trip Advisor before flying to Kiev. I already know the lay of the land there. Trip Advisor is for Newbies, not for me. But if I had gone to Kharkiv to observe Ukrainian rugby league, I probably would have consulted Trip Advisor.

Union showing how its done again, 75k in Twickenham, live on Channel5 at prime time. And seems a decent game for once, a 30-30 draw.

Sky aren't stupid, and they know that they basically keep SL running as a full-time professional sport. They'll have done their sums and know what they need to pay to keep it that way. If they reduce funding, then they run the risk of further diluting the quality in SL. The alternative is that they don't bother to bid at all for a new deal, which would pretty much see a return to a semi-pro game across the board. I'd expect that one of the conditions they insist on in any new deal is that other games can't take place at the same time as a televised game. I'd also hope that they'll include one Championship game every week.